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Wildcat
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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 4:37 pm    Post subject: Back when...  Reply with quote

I always have Ted and Dave W. in mind when I think about this, so it's about time I asked...

Did the pipe smokers of days past put as much care, concern and attention as we do, regarding their pipes and tobacco? Or were pipes more of a "tool" if you will. Just something you did because you wanted too? Did the guys on the farms that Dave talks about in his book agonize over oxidized stems... bowl too hot... waxing the briar... etc?? Or was a pipe something to be used/enjoyed and replaced one day?

Also, was there a difference in attitude in this depending on if you were a city mouse or a country mouse? Did the NY and London folks treat a pipe differently than a farm hand?

Papa Jim passed when I was in high school and he always had a pipe in his hand or pocket. Some had electrical tape around them,  others didn't. I just wonder if he "fretted" about it much. I do know the pipe was ever present, like it was a part of him...
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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll be the farm mouse.. My opinion may be a little off since there was the Grabow factory in Alleghany County.

The pipe smokers that I knew usually only had 1 work pipe. They smoked till it was caked full, till the stem was green, till it had to be taped together..

When there was absolutely no life left in it, they threw it away and (grudgingly) got a new one to break in again.  Grabow gave a pipe to each employee each year, so there was no shortage of free pipes in Alleghany.

Most farmers had a "Sunday go-to-meeting" pipe that was the one that never left the house except for special occasions. These were usually in a rack with a tin of PA attatched. They took a little more care with these and most probably were a little more particular with them. A wipe, a polish, a tool..

I'll never forget BH who always wore bibed over(h)alls. One chest pocket had a Grabow and another had a rusty tin of PA. Great growing up on a farm.. ted
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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll second some of what Ted says, being somewhat of a country mouse myself. In central Ohio where I grew up a lot of men smoked pipes, but when we were working on the farm around all the hay, straw and dry grass they were not smoked. Many chewed - Brown's Mule, Mail Pouch, etc.

They did smoke their pipes when they gathered around the country store at Olive Green or at the Grange Hall on fox hunt days and at other socials. I remember some of them with really beat-up pipes but learned how to shave a bowl from others who used their Barlow pocket knives to shave back the build up in char. I also remember they reamed their stems and mouthpieces with almost anything that was handy - a piece of straw, a piece of wire, etc. Some even polished their pipes and stems with a swipe of nose wax from time to time.

I don't remember the Sunday pipes but my grandfather always had two or three pipes in his rack at home, cleaned them with pipe cleaners and kept them all respectable. Beside the pipe rack always sat a tub of Granger tobacco.

I guess I favored those who smoked cleaner pipes because that is the habit I grew up with. I could never understand how some enjoyed charred and smoked out pipes but there were plenty who did. Dave
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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Having grown up in rural North Carolina, dairy and tobacco farm country, nope, the men in our community that smoked pipes, did not do anything like what some of us do today.  That said, there were pipesters always in the past that did more than they did, but perhaps not quite even as much as some of us do today.
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PostPosted: Fri May 31, 2013 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I meet a guy two weeks ago at the flea market. And he smokes them till the bowl slipts in half and then gets a new one. He had a berwick that was pretty cracked and i sold him my crafton for a cheap price so that he'd have another.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Growing up in the Missouri boot heel-north east Arkansas area in the 60's I don't recall a lot of pipe smokers. I do remember a lot of PA tins or sacks of Bull Durham in coverall pockets for ROY smokes.
Since getting into pipes and buying them on Ebag and seeing the condition of a lot of those pipes. it's easy to see that a lot of pipe smokers did consider their pipes more or less tools.
Caked shut,stems plugged and well chewed,holes or channels in the bottom of the bowl,rims beat down and other various abuses.Use it,abuse it,chuck it( or put in a drawer for 30 years) when it can no longer be smoked.
Although I wasn't around then,evidently there were "collectors" around back in the day-as shown from this ad from 1939.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Similar memories here. Rural upstate NY. Truck farms. Apples, peaches, pears, plums etc. The pipe smokers I came into contact with had pipes in various stages of decline for the most part. Being a kid in the 70s I remember tins and pouches coming out of those overalls. Don't recall any corncobs tho, at least as I can remember. Papa Jim, our next door neighbor and husband of my grandmother's sister, was the only pipe smoker who's house I was in at the time. He did have a pipe rack with nicer pipes by his chair in the parlor, as was mentioned. He had a work bench in the cellar and one in the barn. The pipes that were too far gone for going out and about were in a coffee can on the benches. These were really bad, but he would smoke these in the cellar or in the barn!

Richie, thanks for the city mouse perspective! I especially liked your take of the situation,as seen from the less wealthier side of things.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really didn't have any insight to add to this but yesterday as Izze and I were heading out to Wally World and Lowes, I fired up a pipe and headed out of the apartment complex when I saw and older gentleman, maybe late 70's early 80's, out walking his dog.

As we got closer I noticed a black, rustic billiard hangin' out of his mouth. I pulled over, rolled down the window and said "Excuse me, I just wanted say how nice it is to see a fellow pipe smoker out and around." He said, "Yeh... ain't to many of us around anymore, is there...". He said that he had never tried a cigarette but always had his pipe with him. I noticed a Kaywoodie Club on the stem but the stem seemed to be angular, maybe triangle, and the shank was round. I said "It looks like you're smoking a Kaywoodie". He just smiled and said "I have no idea, I just pick these up from antique stores on occasion and grab one as I head out the door.

Just that simple...

It's things like that that make me want to sell off most of what I have and keep it to a seven day rotation. The only problem is that there are so many shapes and styles that I enjoy depending on my mood on any given day. One week I like 47's, the next I like 65's... 81's and then Freehands...

It seemed that all this gentleman wanted was a reliable piece of wood that had a hole to put tobacco in and a stem coming out of the side to draw the smoke through and he was a happy camper...

Hindsight being 20/20, I should have asked what tobacco he smoked.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sean wrote:
Just that simple...

Great story Sean! Love your conclusion too : Just that simple...

Do you think perhaps some of us have latched on to the pipe and other things from days gone by (like safety razors, hair tonic etc...) as a way of connecting with the past? When men were men and women were ladies and the world was right. I swear, I don't fit in most of the time. My ideologies, beliefs and yes, the pipe... Just a thought.

Love hearing these stories guys!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow...


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