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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 8:19 pm    Post subject: Grabow #42  Reply with quote



Been wanting to do this for a while..
Why is the middle, Westbrook #42, smaller and taller than the other two?

Top one is from 1959/60 because it has an aluminum pin that holds the female part in place. When the Continentals were introduced there were some thin shanks that were so thin that the female part wouldn't hold.. thus the "pin".

Bottom one is from 1980/81.

Middle one is a Westbrook from about 1964/65.

Why is the Westbrook 1/3 smaller?
...And don't say "because it is a Westbrook coupon pipe" because I know that no coupon pipes were made intentionally smaller and why would Grabow make a smaller version of the #42 just to sell 150 or so every year.
There is also a smaller version of the #25..... best I remember.
I have an opinion, but would appreciate any input.
Sorry, 'aint a real good picture...  ted
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Were all Westie 42s in 64/65 this size or is this one unique?  Many of the top craftsmen I've known over the years have been known to take a cull and change dimension/shape to see what it looks like as a finished project.....  Heaven knows those Grabow folks are magicians Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Grabow #42 Reply with quote

ted wrote:


...Top one is from 1959/60 because it has an aluminum pin that holds the female part in place. When the Continentals were introduced there were some thin shanks that were so thin that the female part wouldn't hold.. thus the "pin"....  ted


TED, Could you post a picture of the pin, I dont think Ive ever seen one.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



Sorry Spade. Its dark.. maybe you can see the stem and shank..

That was only used for about 3 or 4 months in 1959/60 until the supplier (Milford automatics) designed a "diamond knurl" for the shank..

That's a knife beside the pipe..  td


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have wandered the same thing. I have three and each one is a different size! A smooth westy, a rusticated westy, and a w/c  starfire.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 11, 2013 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ted wrote:


Sorry Spade. Its dark.. maybe you can see the stem and shank..

That was only used for about 3 or 4 months in 1959/60 until the supplier (Milford automatics) designed a "diamond knurl" for the shank..

That's a knife beside the pipe..  td


I guess a pin doesnt have to be round.  Now I know what to look for.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 3:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a Westy 46 that is very small as well. I didn't think that they made the 46 small, but I got this one and it kinda feels like a lark to me. I'll get some pictures. I have no idea why there would be small versions of the same shape.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 3:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Curious minds want to know! Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 4:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

T. Pollock wrote:
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 4:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gotta be variations in the tooling or possibly in the way the machine was set up or........


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