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Linkman’s Dr. Grabow
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Mike Leverette
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:26 pm    Post subject: Linkman’s Dr. Grabow Reply with quote

I have had several Linkman’s Dr. Grabow pipes over the years and have sold all but the last one; primarily to finance my Peterson collection.  This last one is on the order of Bing’s favorite; a long slim billiard.  Stamped on the near side is “Linkman’s” (block letters) over “Dr. Grabow” (script).  On the far side is “9745A” and “De Luxe” (script) over “Bruyere” (block letters).  On top of the stem is the circle/bar and on the top of the shank is the shield.  The wood, of course, is briar.  All-in-all, a very nice pipe.  Any info?

By the way, the saliva trap is on bottom!



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pre 1943 probably. Maybe late 1930s. Chicago. Linkman's name disappeared from the stamping about 1943. The propeller, or circle/bar emblem disappeared at the same time. It should have a 2-hole integral cleaner, or spoon.

We could guess more if we knew the shape of the saliva trap notch in the cleaner. They began as square. Then went to Mac's D profile. Then went to a C profile.

After the war briar shortage, the term Bruyere was replaced with Imported Bruyere, and then later changed to Imported Briar.

Linkman's 1937 catalog showed the 45 to be a Lovat saddlebit. The A can mean an alternative shape, and may indicate almost anything. Here is the Linkman 45 shape.

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Does this look like yours?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No!  Mine is a billiard with a long slim shank and tapered stem.  The cleaner is sort of "S" shape with tar trap on top and slaiva trap on bottom; as pictured in Tom's "What's Wrong" post; top photo.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 9:26 pm    Post subject: IRONY Reply with quote

Mike L Said
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I have had several Linkman’s Dr. Grabow pipes over the years and have sold all but the last one; primarily to finance my Peterson collection.
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I sold my Peterson collection to finance my Grabow collection as well as another "pipe venture"...

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 4:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike the 2-hole cleaner has a hole between the saliva and nicotine trap notches, that is aligned with the airway hole. Your Linkman's Dr. Grabow Deluxe should have that second hole.

Also, sometimes the stampings on these old pipes are difficult to read. Yours might be a 9748 shown below. If so, I still don't know what the A might indicate. It appears on Linkman's churchwardens.


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Linkman used a unique 4-digit stamping to identify his pipes.
9 indicated it was a Deluxe
7 indicated it was a smooth natural finish
48 indicated the shape
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Here is a photo of the Linkman's Dr Grabow.  It does have the hole between the traps and the number is definitely 9745A.

http://s261.photobucket.com/album...mp;current=MLCDrGrabowpbm-602.jpg
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, the photo helps a lot, Mike. That is the 45 Lovat, but an A with the alternative tapered bit, making it actually a Liverpool shape. Linkman used suffix letters to indicate some variation on a standard shape. He often used a C to indicate a saddle bit for instance. There was the 9714 straight apple Deluxe. And the 9714C, a straight apple Deluxe with a saddle bit. The Churchwardens Mac has collected are also designated as A.

I can't recall what other letter suffixes I've seen used on Linkman pipes.

List it in the Trade/Swap topic. Mac will pay you handsomely for it. He doesn't have a Linkman Liverpool. And his bib overalls have very deep pockets.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 07, 2008 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

drbridges wrote:
I can't recall what other letter suffixes I've seen used on Linkman pipes.

A, B, C and I even have one D.  Odd thing is, in some cases, the letter suffix pipe shared NOTHING in common with the original shape number -- like they just stuck it in there.

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List it in the Trade/Swap topic. Mac will pay you handsomely for it. He doesn't have a Linkman Liverpool. And his bib overalls have very deep pockets.

Yea, a shape I DON'T HAVE!  Didn't even have it on my combination, every-shape-I-ever-saw master shape chart project.  Don't have a single Peterson to trade though. (You mean people collect those things?)  --RJ--
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do your Linkman Dr Grabows presumably the mtn laurel & Rhodie varieties , have a plastic cleaner? Mine does (will cross-post in the "cleaner thread"

During WWII not only was briar hard to come buy in the states (although Custombilt managed to get Algerian), Aluminum was also hard to come buy for the fitments as it was needed for aircrafts.

They turned to plastic. See the yellow band and plastic cleaner. The stem is effecively a push stem. The airflow dynamics seem dreadfull as the hole in the bowl is huge, then gets real small for the plastic stinger as it seems to have been mortised into VPW (vulc push Stems) then gets larger in the stem.

As airflow changes speed (do to incr/dcr ) in the rate of flow (do to the changing diameters of the hole) it creates more turbulence and moisture.

This might be thee biggest factor in why they seem to smoke like crap.

Not the wood or shoddy (a Civil War term) craftsmanship, but the result of the war effort, and retro-fitting stingers into pre-drille rubber stems. Remember too, rubber was at a premium as well. Just making do, they were.

Then again if you have a Linkman Dr. G. Deluxe from the 40's that has an aluminum stinger, or tube, maybe it is: the wood, the craftsmanship. .  .

just my 2 cents:



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:01 am    Post subject: Plastic Cleaners of WWII era Reply with quote

Sir Duke wrote:
Do your Linkman Dr Grabows presumably the mtn laurel & Rhodie varieties , have a plastic cleaner? Mine does (will cross-post in the "cleaner thread"


Some came to me with it removed, some had signs it had broken off in the stem, and one example I have had a completely different design, oddly enough.  If the metal cleaner was somewhat questionable as to it's worth, then the "plastic" ones are surely dubious.  Metal would serve as a condenser and collector, but I am not sure the plastic ones would work in the same way.  So intent they were at inlcuding a cleaner though, they EVEN TRIED TO MIMMICK THE GENERAL SHAPE!  Try cleaning out a dottle with that spoon!

Yes, with the plastic cleaner intact, most of these pipes don't smoke that well -- the  moisture, as you have noted, collects in all the wrong places.  They smoke fairly well without it though.

I am not having luck with uploading photos tonight for some reason, but here goes an attempt at the "other" version of a cleaner I have.  I don't know what served as it's inspiration in design.  --RJ--

Edit:  Went back and redid the photo, but eliminating the descrittion for the photo -- seems like they work OK then . . .  --RJ--



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