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gillywalker

Casings

So I read on some forums to stay away from tobaccos with chemical casings.  What's the general feeling on that around here?  I'm really enjoying Carter Hall, but I'm thinking maybe I should try something a bit more organic.
steverino

Gilly, my understanding of tobacco manufacturing (which is limited) is that just about every blend has some kind of casing on it.  It may be intended to flavor the tobacco heavily as with some aromatics, or just to give it a hint of something in addition to the normal tobacco taste.  Mac Baren is a good example as I mentioned in my quick review of HH Mature Virginia -   there is a honey-like casing on just about every blend they make, and this is apparently typical of Danish-style blends.  Another good example of where casings are used a lot is with straight burlies and burley blends - burleys would in general be difficult to smoke without something on them, as there is virtually no natural sugar in them.

As for characterizing this as a "chemical" casing, I don't know how accurate this is across the board - many casings consist of things like rum, honey, vanilla, apple, maple syrup, other liquers, etc, so the concern with casings is not necessarily that they are "chemical" in nature, but that they sometimes obscure the true tobacco flavor to the detriment of the blend and goop up your pipe in the process.  My guess is that this is what was intended on the forums you mentioned.  There are plenty of high-quality cased tobaccos that are well-made and relatively dry.  By the way, I think many of us may be surprised when the new FDA regulations start requiring an ingredients list on tobacco - cigarettes aren't the only thing that has lots of chemicals.

The only organic pipe tobacco I know of is Organic Pipe Dreams from Cornell and Diehl, though I believe I may have seen some other new stuff this year at the Raleigh pipe show.  It's probably out there if you want to try it.

Just my .02.  Good luck.
Terry292

I think pretty much all you have to worry about with CH is polypropholyne glycol.  It's a natural additive, though, intended to extend the shelf life of the tobacco.  When OTC's are made, the manufacturer never knows how long it will be in the store before somebody buys it.  That's what the glycol is for.  You can also buy it to humidify cigars.

Of course, I know as much about manufacturing tobacco as the man in the moon.
Terry
ozark southpaw

Gilly,if there is any chemical casings in CH I can't tell it!
A lot of tobaccos have propylene glycol(supposed to be a food grade additive!) as a cheap way of keeping it from drying out-think plastic bags! Also Captain Black white seems to have lot of it as does Mixture 79 !!
The PG's, to me anyway, make my tongue slick and tastes  and smells like soap!!
I've never noticed it in any of the burlys such as CH,PA, H & H ,SWR etc.
ted

Guys...I've already talked to the farmer who has the Burley on my farm about my "tithe". I'm going to get about 1/2 dozen plants and make up a few "hands" of pure, organic, burley.

I promised to give a few to Dr. B. and RJ. If y'all want some, just ask. It'll be late October or early
November though before it's ready.....ted
Terry292

ted wrote:
Guys...I've already talked to the farmer who has the Burley on my farm about my "tithe". I'm going to get about 1/2 dozen plants and make up a few "hands" of pure, organic, burley.

I promised to give a few to Dr. B. and RJ. If y'all want some, just ask. It'll be late October or early
November though before it's ready.....ted


Organic burley?  That should be a trip.  We used to shred it and wrap it in corn husks.  Don't know if I want to go there again.
Terry
BWThomas

ted wrote:
Guys...I've already talked to the farmer who has the Burley on my farm about my "tithe". I'm going to get about 1/2 dozen plants and make up a few "hands" of pure, organic, burley.

I promised to give a few to Dr. B. and RJ. If y'all want some, just ask. It'll be late October or early
November though before it's ready.....ted


I'd like to try it!

BW
ozark southpaw

I'd like to try it to Ted!
steverino

Count me in too, ted, if you have enough.  Might be interesting to experiment with.  I bet the strength will be out of this world!
ted

Steve, Correct me if I'm wrong....With this pure Burley you can add whatever "casing" you'd like on it. Anything from honey, to cherry flavoring, to Jack Daniels, to old sweat socks?

The experimenting would be the fun part.

We layered the leaves (with the stems removed) and put a little honey between the layers. It made great "plug" chewing tobacco. That's all I've tried.
steverino

Yep ted, that stuff ought to soak up some flavoring like a sponge.  How long do you normally cure it?
ted

steverino wrote:
Yep ted, that stuff ought to soak up some flavoring like a sponge.  How long do you normally cure it?


With Burley the entire plant is cut and "spudded" onto thin sticks and hung in open air barns in late August or early September. It'll hang there till early November.

On a damp dreary November day, when the dried tobacco comes into "case" (absorbs enough moisture so as to not be brittle) it'll be taken down, off the sticks, and the plants will be piled and covered.

We'll do "grading" a little clloser to the actual time.....ted
steverino

Okay.  Four to six weeks is what I have read, but not having personal experience, I wondered how close that was to accurate.
drbridges

FDA & Flavored Tobacco

News release from FDA. Pertains to cigarettes, not pipe tobacco, but I wonder if this is the beginning of something that may affect us eventually.

http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/New.../PressAnnouncements/ucm189436.htm

Quote:
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration is enforcing the flavored cigarette ban provision of the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act (Tobacco Control Act) by issuing several warning letters to companies continuing to sell illegal flavored cigarettes to consumers in the United States through their Web sites.

The warning letters directed the companies to cease the marketing and sale of these products immediately or to take other appropriate action to bring the products into compliance with the law. Failure to do so may result in additional regulatory actions such as seizure or injunction. In addition, FDA requested a written response from each of the companies within 15 days outlining the corrective actions taken.

Enforcement of the flavored cigarette ban is FDA’s effort to remove cigarettes that contain certain candy or fruit flavors from the marketplace. Removal of these products from the market will assist in the prevention of children and adolescents from starting to smoke and in the reduction in death and disease caused by smoking.

“FDA takes the enforcement of this flavored cigarette ban seriously,” said Lawrence R. Deyton, M.S.P.H, M.D., director of FDA’s Center for Tobacco Products. These actions should send a clear message to those who continue to break the law that FDA will take necessary actions to protect our children from initiating tobacco use.”

The Tobacco Control Act, which was passed by Congress and signed by the President in June 2009, specifically called for a ban on cigarettes containing certain characterizing flavors. On Sept. 14, 2009, FDA sent a letter to regulated industry reminding them that the ban would go into effect on Sept. 22, 2009. FDA also stated in the letter that any company who continued to sell such products after the Sept. 22, 2009, effective date may be subject to FDA enforcement actions.

Since the effective date of the ban, FDA has examined products offered for import and searched the Internet to identify illegal products. As a result, FDA issued several warning letters to companies and Web sites that continued to market and sell these illegal products over the Internet to consumers in the United States. The warning letters were the result of Internet searches conducted by FDA’s Office of Enforcement and the Center for Tobacco Products.
gillywalker

Did you guys see this?

http://www.newsday.com/business/a...ickly-find-tax-loophole-1.1594488
LokoMac8

gillywalker wrote:
Did you guys see this?

http://www.newsday.com/business/a...ickly-find-tax-loophole-1.1594488


No!  Well, it serves those self-serving politicians right!  I don't believe in "sin taxes" regardless of what they are on.  A 2,000 percent tax increase on ANYTHING is absurd and should be unconstitutional if not unconscionable.  Let's throw a 2,000 percent tax increase on gasoline and automobile sales!  After all, the vehicles and the pollution they make kill people and children, too -- and the deaths from the pollution are probably conveniently and wrongly attributed to smoking and second-hand smoke anyway.  SOBs!  --RJ--
BWThomas

gillywalker wrote:
Did you guys see this?

http://www.newsday.com/business/a...ickly-find-tax-loophole-1.1594488


This kind of stuff really turns my stomach. I've been watching this for sometime. These clowns in Washington are just going to try to push this tax over to pipe tobacco and cigars. I certainly hope they do not succeed. They are NOT going to raise the revenue they had hoped for with these taxes. All they are going to succeed in doing is closing down small businesses, putting MORE people out of work, and taking more money from your pockets so they can just piss it away on their BS entitlement programs.

I could go on ranting about this for hours...but I won't!

I hope that all here will this keep sort of thing in mind the next time you vote. Take a few minutes and find out how your representatives in Washington voted on these issues. If they aren't thinking the same way you are....send them off to look for a new job!

Earn what you keep...keep what you earn! Can you tell what side of the fence I'm on?!

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