| Archive for Dr. Grabow Pipes "America's One and Only" |
| ozark southpaw |
EdgeworthAnybody know where I can order Edgeworth? Can't find it around here. Would like to give it a try. Found one place online but they were out of it.
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| drbridges |
Some guy in Waco (Mac's neighborhood) sold a bunch of unopened vintage tins on eBay a while back.
I've seen info indicating the current Edgeworth isn't the old Edgeworth. |
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| ozark southpaw |
pipes&cigars has the tins but I don't want to buy that much without giving it a try! Hoping I kind find some place that has the pouched. In what way might it be different now? | ||||
| atlacatl |
Try JR cigars | ||||
| drbridges |
Can't say since I've never smoked it. It is an old brand name. Used to be made by Larus (or by Pinkerton for Larus), and now by Lane. It still receives good reviews at tobaccoreviews.com |
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| ozark southpaw |
Thanks Gents! Still havent had any luckfinding it by the pouch. JR cigar lists a 6pack of pouches. Quess I'll just have to keep looking! | ||||
| Texhealer |
Don't look too long or get too picky, it's been discontinued, so what's out there is all that's left. | ||||
| ozark southpaw |
Aint that just my luck!! | ||||
| Gig |
If you want to make what ERR you buy last longer mix it 50/50 with 5 Bros. It really makes for a tasty and full smoke 
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| steverino |
I'm planning on stopping at JR a week from tomorrow when I bring my son home from school. I'll see if they have any Edgeworth in stock and pick up some if they do. Wouldn't mind trying it myself and then if anyone else wants some I can pass it on for a phenominal fee. | ||||
| ozark southpaw |
Gig,who makes 5 Brothers? Steve, I might pay a phenominal fee for some Edgeworth! But only once! | ||||
| Terry292 |
OS, try some Edgeworth Slices, if you can find it anymore. I always liked it better than the ready-rubbed. 5 Brothers used to be made by the Larus & Brother Company in Richmond. However, that was many, many years ago. I don't know if it's still available in the States.
Terry |
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| ozark southpaw |
Pipesandcigar.com has 5 Brothers. Had to do a search for it once I got to their site. From what I could see in the pic,it say its made by Pinkerton. | ||||
| steverino |
Okay Fellas, need some advice - I stopped at JR last week as I mentioned previously in this thread. The only thing they had in Edgeworth was the large tin. I'm sure this is not the slices, but do you think it is worth trying? If so, I'll get the tin next time and send out some samples if anyone is interested.
Thanks. |
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| ozark southpaw |
Steve,if you decide to get it I'd buy some from you. | ||||
| drbridges |
Be careful to save some for y'self, steve. We will buy what we can from you. | ||||
| steverino |
I posted a general question on Smokers Forums about Edgeworth and most of the replies I got over there seemed to indicate that I'd better get back over to JR and buy all I can while I can. Anyone have thoughts on why this would be the case? What don't I know about Edgeworth? | ||||
| Texhealer |
It's been discontinued. | ||||
| steverino |
Ah. I got it. Thanks! | ||||
| drbridges |
Edgeworth brand was "adopted" by Lane Ltd. from Larus. I've read some speculation re Lane's long term strategy in the declining tobacco market. Let's just say Lane does not feel as emotionally attached to Edgeworth.
We can be grateful to Jim Burns for securing DG's future for the present. |
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| steverino |
Okay Fellas, I picked up a tin of Edgeworth Ready Rubbed today. Just went out and tried a bowlful in my Eldorado 84 (Canadian). I don't want to appear like I'm overdoing it or anything, but MAN IS THAT STUFF GOOD!
Now that I've calmed down, here's the real story!  It is a very interesting tobacco. When I popped the top, I got a strong tin aroma which smelled distinctly of stewed fruit. I have smelled a tobacco like this before but I can't remember what it was. The cut looks mostly like cube-cut, with a small percentage of pieces that look like ribbon that was cut up fine. The cut causes it to pack in the pipe effortlessly - really - you almost don't have to pack it, just fill the bowl. It lit up on the first light with no problem. The taste was really nice - sort of a sweetened (but not cloying) Prince Albert maybe. This taste lasted through the first half of the bowl. After this, the taste became a little less sweet and the nicotine started to kick in. It's not super strong by any means, but I did feel a bit of throat irritation from it.
As for composition, the tin mentions only Kentucky Burley and Tennesse White Burley. From what I have read elsewhere, it also contains some Virginia and boys, if I was a swearing man, I'd swear it has perique in it. It was downright spicy through about the second third of the bowl. If you've wanted to try Edgeworth and you like Prince Albert or any of the other similar burleys, I wouldn't hesitate to go ahead and order a tin. I don't believe you'll be sorry. I'm so confident, in fact, that I'll make this offer: If you buy a tin and don't like it, let me know and I'll buy it from you. I had said I would send out some samples. If anyone is interested, PM me your address. |
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| Sir Duke |
I'm guessing you experienced VA's that have some age on them. Yum. This is why I cellar tobacco. | ||||
| Gig |
If you like ERR and enjoy a fuller smoke, mix 50/50 ERR and 5 Brothers
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| drbridges |
Steverino, thanks, but I want my own tin.
Did they have more Edgeworth? I'll pay 2X what it costs. |
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| steverino |
DRB - Have you checked the JRcigars web page? I think you can still order it online right now. If not, I will be glad to try to get another tin and ship it to you. There was at least one more tin in the store, so I imagine there may still be some left.
Through a fellow member of another forum, I have found out that Edgeworth Slices, at least, is still available from european suppliers. It can be had for approx. $21 per tin plus shipping. I would imagine the ready rubbed is available the same way but he didn't say. It might be worthwhile to see if anyone is interested in a group buy to try and get a quantity price and a better shipping cost. |
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| ted |
Think I saw one of the old ad's from the Chicago Tribune on the Forum that older Grabow's were pre-smoked with Edgeworth.....We used Prince Albert...for what it's worth.....ted | ||||
| ozark southpaw |
I just checked pipeandcigars.com. They show having Ready rubbed for $24.99 fora 12 Oz. tin. JR cigars has a price of $19.95 but show it as out of stock. | ||||
| steverino |
Sounds like store stock may be all that's left at JR now. OS, my tin is a 14 oz tin - wonder what the difference is between mine and the one you saw? | ||||
| drbridges |
2 oz I figger.
Use of Edgeworth was prominently advertised in Linkman's DG ads. Makes me believe there was a meeting of minds between them. Sparta DG didn't advertise they used PA for pre-smoking, did they ted? BTW, for those who didn't read the news: New DG pipes are no longer pre-smoked. Kind of sad losing a tradition like that. Kinda like not going to your grandmother's for Thanksgiving anymore. |
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| ted |
Guys....I'm no expert on tobacco. I like what I like.......Went this morning to Smokers Depot in Homosassa Springs Fl to get what I like.
They had 6 bags of Edgeworth Ready Rubbed......Looked like he had just opened the box.......If anyone wants them, let me know and I'll buy and distribute them. |
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| drbridges |
My check is in the mail, ted. | ||||
| ozark southpaw |
Edgeworth
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| ted |
Dr.B.....Guess you got em....Only had 5 left. He either sold one, or I mis-counted.....Mailed today.....ted | ||||
| LokoMac8 |
EDGEWORTH Tobacco -- a sad, sad day
Any self-respecting Dr. Grabow fan should at least TRY EDGEWORTH -- for years it is what Linkman used to pre-smoke his pipes with! I've been smoking EDGEWORTH for awhile and it remains one of my staples. I just buy the 14oz cans from Lil' Brown Smoke Shack. They give me excellent service and their prices are fair -- actually considerably cheaper than most of the prices for stuff that I can find locally. I bought some about two months ago and it was about twenty bucks, I think. Unfotunately, I JUST checked out the web site and found this: "Edgeworth There are no products to list in this category." This is sad news for me! I have been hearing the rumors about EDGEWORTH being discontinued, but didn't think much about it as I had been buying all I wanted whenever I needed it from LBSS. All I can say is if you can buy it locally or whatever, BUY ALL YOU CAN. Even if you don't like it, folks that do may pay an arm and a leg for it a few years down the road and you will have something good to sell or trade. I tried buying some from that fellow from Waco that ssold the old tins on eBay, but all I did was run up the price and still GOT OUTBID! That fellow ought to be RICH by now! I am attaching below two pages from an old 1937 Larus & Bro. Brochure that came in a postal mailing box with two old Dr. Grabow pipes I have -- the pipes were like new when I got them, the sort of find that I live for! --RJ-- 
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| LokoMac8 |
Definite meeting of the minds. I mentioned before that I have two Dr. Grabow pipes that were mailed in a box FROM Larus & Bro., along with that pamphlet on pipe smoking and Edgeworth tobacco. Even in those days, there seemed to have been some sort of promotional thing going on somewhat akin to the RJR/Grabow offers. It may take finding an old newspaper advertisement to figure out the full story on that. --RJ-- |
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| ted |
Mac....Here in Fl., Smokers Depot is a bit of a "chain" tobacconist. I got Dr.B
the 5 bags in Homosassa Springs, There is also a Smokers Depot in Brooksville, and one in Spring Hill.......Both towns are about 20 miles away, and I'll be in both before Christmas. I'll look for Edgeworth in both, and if I find it, I'll buy it for any of you that want it.....ted |
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| ozark southpaw |
Rule no. 5 Never refill a hot pipe... I sometimes never let mine cool!! | ||||
| steverino |
Ted, I'd be interested in some, thanks. |
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| steverino |
FYI, just cleaned out the last two tins from the JR in Statesville, NC. The lady on duty couldn't tell me whether they would be getting any more.
One of the fellows from another forum (CPS) sent me samples of the ready-rubbed, a couple of Edgeworth Slices and some Peter Stokkebye cube-cut burley. All very good tobaccos. There may be hope for me and burley yet. |
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| LokoMac8 |
Well, why would your pipe be hot if you are smoking cool, slow burning Edgeworth? --RJ-- |
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| LokoMac8 |
If steverino doesn't get the last of of it, I would take some of what you find, TED! --RJ-- |
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| steverino |
Since I found several tins, I will certainly defer to others on the board who haven't been able to find any. If there is any left over, I will be happy to take it. | ||||
| drbridges |
ted, my Edgeworth RR arrived in today's mail. Thank you very much.
I will share my opinion of this extinct blend after I've tried it. |
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| drbridges |
Edgeworth Ready-Rubbed produced by Lane Ltd. of Tucker, GA.
Not a blend, but a true bright burley experience, without any casing or additives I could detect. It isn't a ribbon cut, or a cube cut, but a tangle of short ribbons you expect from rubbing sliced cake tobacco. It has all of the "nose" I've come to expect from burley. Made my eyes water. Burned slowly and evenly to a fine gray ash. A true tobacco without the fruit and candy. We can be thankful to Captain Slade and his slave Stephen for the accidental discovery of bright leaf burley. I'm sorry Lane is not continuing this blend. |
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| ted |
Glad you got em', and glad you liked em'. I'm going to Spring Hill Thursday. Think I'll just look this time. I still owe you $10 worth. We'll get that taken care of in a while. ....Glad to do it.......ted |
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| Gig |
I wish I could get some here in Australia
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| ted |
Gig.....I had already decided that you ARE on the list for some of the next batch....
No re-imbursement required. We'll use Dr. B's extra money to send yours.....You got it.......ted |
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| Gig |
Thankyou very much Ted the offer is very generous of you
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| ted |
GIG.....Once belonged to a group called BOB.....Brothers of the Briar.......and this is the way we were......Want something?......You'll get it..............ted | ||||
| LokoMac8 |
I have been harping about EDGEWORTH for some time, but I don't think you ever listened to me, DRB! Glad you got to try it. Here's what I received from the Li' Brown Smoke Shack; "Dear Customer, Edgeworth Cans have been discontinued. We sometimes may discontinue items due to the manufacturer no longer distributing the product or our own choice to discontinue carrying the product. If you have any other questions please call 1-800-706-2480 or reply. Sincerely, Ryan Cheek Webmaster Lil' Brown Smoke Shack 3201 Goodman Rd | Yakima, WA 98903 info@lilbrown.com P: 509.457.6404/800.706.2480| F: 509.575.1903 www.lilbrown.com" Mighty sad day for me. Sort of a gray response though, as it specifically referred to "cans" and not pouches, though LBSS didn't have the pouches available. I've only got about three-quarters of a can left . . . --RJ-- |
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| drbridges |
I listened to you, Mac. It's just you never offered to share any with me. |
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| LokoMac8 |
Oh. Sorry about that. The stuff was just too good to share! Even then I had heard nasty rumors that Edgeworth might be discontinued. Besides, I didn't share my VIKINGs with you, but you went out and got your own. I figured you would just take my word that EDGEWORTH was that good and do the same. --RJ-- |
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| drbridges |
I was never able to locate a convenient source for Edgeworth until ted offered to shop for me. I bid on a sizeable collection on eBay, but it went much higher than I was willing to spend. Don't you remember? I invited you to go in with me on the purchase.
Note to Mac and ted: I read and listen real good. It's remembering what I've read and heard that gives me difficulty. |
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| LokoMac8 |
Yea, I remember the auction -- I bid on several of those Edgeworth auctions and didn't even come close to the bids in went for. The fellow that had it is probably as rich as old Gates with Microsoft. I've always joked that I had a photographic memory -- it's just that my "total recall" is malfunctioning and I can't remember what my mind took pictures of. --RJ-- |
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| ted |
Guys.......No Edgeworth bags in Spring Hill, and re-checked Homosassa. I'll try Brooksville next week....
The owner said he could and would get "tins". What is a tin? Think I kow what a tub is. Gig, Sorry, you may not get Edgeworth after all. Still trying though....ted |
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| drbridges |
I may hold the very last of Edgeworth RR!
I have ABSOLUTE POWER now! Somebody set us up the bomb All your base are belong to us |
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| ted |
Dr.B.....Got your check today. Thanks. We use "express forwarding" while we are in Florida. You get it ALL, but only once a week.
I owe you about ten dollars worth of "stuff". Like oranges?.....Grapefruit?....We can buy red naval oranges for about .20 cents each, and they are WONDERFUL....We'll work it out........ted |
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| drbridges |
Edgeworth Ready Rubbed Sourcehttp://www.pipetobacco.com/page/pipet/PROD/edge/EDGETRREdgeworth Ready Rubbed appears available here. Sorry, Gig, they ship only in the US. While you're there browsing. http://www.pipetobacco.com/page/pipet/CTGY/msp A VIKING PACER by Mastercraft? But it has a white spade on the stem. Has Jim Burns assembled some more VIKINGS? http://www.pipetobacco.com/page/pipet/CTGY/lanpipe Who do you imagine made these pipes for Lane? http://www.pipetobacco.com/page/pipet/CTGY/vik Apparently DG didn't protect their trademark VIKING. Bjarne has it. |
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| drbridges |
I ordered 2 pipes and some tins of tobacco. Not Edgeworth.
I'll report upon receipt. |
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| ted |
Dr.B....This pipe tobacco place site brings up a lot more questions than answers...Best I can tell, the SWR, and Lane shapes are Grabow's.
The Viking Pacer by Mastercraft IS a Viking. I believe the Dr. Grabow name was moulded onto the bottom of the metal base. Be really interested to know if it says Grabow, or if that has been sanded off...Regardless, call a spade a spade. If IP&A has bases, the wood was always "no value" because of its size. Really a tremendous profit in these.....ted |
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| drbridges |
I spoke with Jim about this because there was an eBay seller out of England who was selling what he described as NEW Vikings. Jim said they still had a large quantity of Viking bases and bits in storage, and that in 2006 he had assembled some for sale to a dealer who moved most of them to Great Britain where metal stem pipes are more popular. He also said a problem with resurrecting the Viking was nickle plating. Environmental law has nearly ended nickle plating in this country, and Viking stems might have to come from Asia. He couldn't commit to that unless he was confident there was a market for Vikings. |
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| drbridges |
I thought I recognized the shapes. You have helped immensely in that, ted. Lane Ltd. probably had oodles of these made before 2006 when they owned DG/Sparta. I expect they are vps non-filter pipes. |
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| ted |
I think that's probably right. Lane knew they were selling the factory and so they made and took some finished inventory for themselves. Just now coming on the market. Might also explane the ones Steverino found on e-bay. Remember..Un-smoked...Made by a famous factory in NC... The VIKING in full shapes troubles me. Why let the trademark lapse if you (Mr. Burns) were ever going to make them again? I imagine he made up all the Viking (metal) he could, sold them to England, and said "no mas"......ted |
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| Sir Duke |
see http://www.smokingmetal.co.uk/ I'D LOVE TO GET ME A HANDFULL OF THESE BOWLS. BEEN PLANNING ON TURNING SOME OUT ON THE LATHE BUT LOST MY "ROUND TUIT" |
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| Gig |
Just finished my last bowl of ERR, is there no Humanity left in the world? | ||||
| TheDuke |
That just bite's Gig! This was on my short list to try, but after reading the whole topic-What's the point! If I love it and can't get anymore I'll become a bitter pipe smoker! 
The I'd start smoking this: http://www.cupojoes.com/cgi-bin/dept?dpt=F&srch=DF&tier2=223
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| drbridges |
Or even worse, this:
http://www.cupojoes.com/cgi-bin/d...text=Mixture+79&submit=Submit |
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| ozark southpaw |
$26 for a can of Mixture 79? Would not give that for 10 lbs! | ||||
| drbridges |
Gig, as I posted earlier, this merchant appears to still offer ERR, but doesn't ship overseas. I'm certain someone here will ship it to you if you ask.
http://www.pipetobacco.com/page/pipet/PROD/edge/EDGETRR |
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| drbridges |
Consolidated makes their copy of Edgeworth.
http://www.pipetobacco.com/page/pipet/PROD/cons/conbed I haven't tried it, and don't know if this is a copy of Edgeworth's Ready Rubbed or Flake. I assume it is Ready Rubbed. Might be worth a try if you are willing. |
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| ozark southpaw |
For all you Edgeworth junkies there is a guy on Smokers Forum looking to trade full tins of Ready Rubbed for other tobaccos. He's got 2 tins and a full tin jarred left. Mac,here's your chance!! | ||||
| TheDuke |
Got 2oz on the way to try. That way if I really like it I can complain and reminise with the rest of you!LOL! | ||||
| ozark southpaw |
You won't hear me belly-achin' about it!! I have never smoked it!! Would like to have tried it though! | ||||