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Thelonious Monkfish

KW White Briar

Brother Dave was kind enough to send along some things to drive me nuts in our last trade, including a few painted pipes he got tired of looking at. Paint goes on drywall, not wood, can't stand it, looks terrible to me. I keep putting them on the shelf, never meaning to get them anyway but they keep showing up in misc lots. Too many here now so they need to be cleared out. Started to hack at them, literally, here's the first one finished. Left a little white on the rim and stained the remaining paint, ugly as it is still think it looks better than any painted pipe.


Piffyr

A KW Tuxedo! I like it!
Thelonious Monkfish

Piffyr wrote:
A KW Tuxedo! I like it!

This guy gets it...
russellwilson1979

nice

Looks good to me. The 14 is my favorite of the kaywoodies.
pipesbywhitney

Looks a whole lot better for sure ... Dave
Kentuck

Paint is just so........gruesome. Much better now but I would finish the rustication.
Thelonious Monkfish

Kentuck wrote:
Paint is just so........gruesome. Much better now but I would finish the rustication.

Just get rid of the whole finish? Yeah, not like it's a white briar anymore. This one is done so it is what it is, too many of them here to get nit picky, maybe the next one comes out more better...
Dave G

I agree. Walls not briar.

Tremendous improvement. Smile
ozark southpaw

I have mixed feelings about the painted pipes. I've had a few of them in rotation over the years and found they smoke just fine. I even like the looks of them if the paint is in nice shape.  I don't however, like to see wood of any kind painted.  The wife wants to paint all the trim and doors of the first floor of our house. I'd prefer to go with a lighter color stain.

I agree about the white you've left on this one--needs to go.
ted

I have real mixed emotions about color pipes.

Once said that Grabow filters paid my salary, but our Color Viscount, Color Duke, and Color Viking paid the salaries of most of the other employees.
After the Surgeon Generals 1964 report on smoking we couldn't keep up with demand, but by 1966 the demand had slowed and we needed something else.
By 1966 KYM already had a white briar...most of them were rustic. We had to match them...
In 1966 I was a 'tester' for a smooth white pipe and it was OK. Grabow started selling their own version of a White Viscount. We never were able to do a rustic version. They sold really well.

Paul Fish decided to try some other colors so before long we had red, green, tan, blue, orange Viscounts. They became 'hits' among a lot of smokers. Logically, next was Color Duke, and it was a "REAL HIT".
These color pipes kept the factory busy for almost 10 years and generated a lot of profit for our little company.

The demand had gone away by 1980, but as a effort to resurrect color we made the white Viscount with the Olympic Logo for 1980. That was the last 'burst' for color pipes.

US Tobacco allowed us 'write off' excess inventory in 1984 or 85 and we buried over $100,000 dollars of inventory of color pipes in the sawdust pile at the old factory.
Imagine what archelogists will think in 500 years!

So.... One of my all time favorite pipes was a red Viscount #47, and I thank those colors for giving us 10 years of great sales.. (BTW Color Pipes put us ahead of KYM in sales and profit.. We became #1).

Do I like them? I owe the a lot....  ted
Piffyr

So, what you're saying, Tom, is that I need to go digging around the sawdust piles in Sparta. Gotcha!

Just out of curiosity, what was the problem with painted, rustic pipes? Was it an issue of the paint pooling up or not penetrating into the crevices or something else?
Kentuck

Anybody got a backhoe? I feel a strong "Indiana Jones" compulsion! Laughing
ted

Piffyr wrote:
So, what you're saying, Tom, is that I need to go digging around the sawdust piles in Sparta. Gotcha!

Just out of curiosity, what was the problem with painted, rustic pipes? Was it an issue of the paint pooling up or not penetrating into the crevices or something else?


I didn't say what else might be buried in a 40 year old sawdust pile... Are you looking for Jimmy Hoffa?

Rustic was a problem for just what you said.
Our lacquer was sprayed by a machine, just like furniture. The piece spun in front of the nozzles..
Painted pipes were done by hand with a sprayer that you'd use to paint a car. We never got the paint on evenly enough on the rustic. I still don't know how KYM did theirs.
ted

Kentuck wrote:
Anybody got a backhoe? I feel a strong "Indiana Jones" compulsion! Laughing


I watched 'em being buried along with our accountant. You'll have to have a track-hoe with a long reach. td
Kentuck

ted wrote:
Kentuck wrote:
Anybody got a backhoe? I feel a strong "Indiana Jones" compulsion! Laughing


I watched 'em being buried along with our accountant. You'll have to have a track-hoe with a long reach. td
Well, I guess I could bring one of my coal miner buddies from over in West Virginia and we could shaft mine them. If I brought two they would probably unionize and bring everything to a halt. Then we would have the EPA to deal with too. The anti smoking people would picket for sure. I guess we better let them stay in the ground till the price of pipes go up enough to make it profitable. But then there would be a glut of foreign pipes released to enter the U.S. tax free when we did start mining. Shucks! Let the groundhogs smoke them. We can't afford it.
JoeMan

ted wrote:
 
I didn't say what else might be buried in a 40 year old sawdust pile... Are you looking for Jimmy Hoffa?


Laughing  Laughing  Laughing  Laughing
Thelonious Monkfish

Kentuck wrote:
Paint is just so........gruesome. Much better now but I would finish the rustication.

The paint left on it was bothering me, finally gave in and finished the rest off. Good idea, not sure why I left any paint, I hate paint on wood.


pipesbywhitney

Thelonious Monkfish wrote:
Kentuck wrote:
Paint is just so........gruesome. Much better now but I would finish the rustication.

The paint left on it was bothering me, finally gave in and finished the rest off. Good idea, not sure why I left any paint, I hate paint on wood.




That looks like a real pipe now!
Oldredbeard

I agree, it looks better than ever now.
Wildcat

I've stripped and refurbished both DG and KW painted pipes and all I can say is, the paint and finish used by DG is harder to remove and more durable, if you will, than the WhiteBriar paInt used at KW.
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