drbridges
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What's Available & Where?As a topic in the Contemporty Crebow Fourm we should share notes re what DG pipes are available OTC, where they're available, and who is selling them.
According to recent IP&A sources RiteAid, CVS and Walgreens should stock Grand Duke and something else DG, like Savoy or Full Bent. Some WalMart stores also carry DG.
OTC - over the counter
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Sir Duke
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Re: What's Available & Where?I wonder of the e-tailers that also have Brick & Mortar shops have the Grabows available in the store and on display?
There is a CVS on Boyston Street that has a Lark on the peg. I should take a peek at it and see if its a hangover from the Lane Era...
Good idea btw.
T
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LokoMac8
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Re: What's Available & Where? | drbridges wrote: | As a topic in the Contemporty Crebow Fourm we should share notes re what DG pipes are available OTC, where they're available, and who is selling them.
According to recent IP&A sources RiteAid, CVS and Walgreens should stock Grand Duke and something else DG, like Savoy or Full Bent. Some WalMart stores also carry DG.
OTC - over the counter |
Well, in Temple, Texas, neither CVS, WalMart or Walgreens have pipes of any kind -- at least the last time I checked. Same story with the stores I checked in Rosenberg, Texas a few months ago. Most sold pipe tobacco, but NO PIPES.
The TOBACCO JUNCTION on Adams street in Temple DOES have a handful of Dr. Grabows -- I don't think their stores at other locations do.
Most pipe shops, like several in Austin, just snicker if you even mention the name, "Dr. Grabow" in their most esteemed presence. --RJ--
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Mike Leverette
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Several months ago, I purchased a Grand Duke bulldog at a CVS but I do not know if they still carry pipes since this one was on sale.
RiteAid in Georgia does not carry pipes of any description; in fact a couple that I stopped at carried no tobacco products at all.
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drbridges
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Checked with the CVS in Bryan, Texas. They carry Grand Dux and Savoy. They're behind the counter and stacked on rods, so I don't know how many they have, or if there might be other pipe lines behind those 2 in front. Probably 18-24 in stock.
This marketing isn't going to sell pipes. First the customer has to get the attention of the over-stressed or disinterested employee behind the counter. And then either purchase the first pipe on the rod, or risk irritating the clerk by insisting on seeing every other shape they have.
I'm not going to do that, and I doubt DG customers will come away satisfied with their purchase. IP&A has to find a better way.
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Mike Leverette
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At a Walgreens about a year ago:
Mike: Can I come behind the counter to look at the pipe tobacco; bad eyes?
Clerk: What do you want and I will get it for you?
Mike: I won't know that until I see what you have.
Clerk: We have several different kinds ; what do you want?
Mike: Look; can I come behind the counter to look?
Clerk: No!
Mike: That's okay; I will just go to some other drug store from now on, and please tell your manager why I will no longer shop here.
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drbridges
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Tobacco is locked behind glass doors in my grocery stores now. You have to get a cashier to leave her checkout line to unlock the doors for you.
Forget pipes. They ain't in there.
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Sir Duke
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| drbridges wrote: | Checked with the CVS in Bryan, Texas. They carry Grand Dux and Savoy. They're behind the counter and stacked on rods, so I don't know how many they have, or if there might be other pipe lines behind those 2 in front. Probably 18-24 in stock.
This marketing isn't going to sell pipes. First the customer has to get the attention of the over-stressed or disinterested employee behind the counter. And then either purchase the first pipe on the rod, or risk irritating the clerk by insisting on seeing every other shape they have.
I'm not going to do that, and I doubt DG customers will come away satisfied with their purchase. IP&A has to find a better way. |
I ain't marketing. It ain't Mercahdising. Its an Albatross.
ckr had the same proble when attemping to buy a Grabow that Miike and David both experience. The solution is to go in early in the morning when no one else is there. Thats what I do. Most of these places are even open all-night.
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Sir Duke
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| Mike Leverette wrote: | | Several months ago, I purchased a Grand Duke bulldog at a CVS but I do not know if they still carry pipes since this one was on sale. |
this is why I buy new. Kind of an experiment. If I clear the rack, I can see if it is refilled with pipes.
ON A SIDE NOTE:
It was said in another forum that Dr. G probablly scared away as many new pipesmokers as it obtained. Huh? The implication was that they smoked like sh!t. Huh?
drbridges has been preaching that DrG ought to re-establish the booklet for new pipesmokers. Although there is tons of info on the net, I agree.
If someone, ON A WHIM, is thinking, oh.. I'll try smoking a pipe, they aren't going to go out and buy a $200 dollar pipe! They're jsut not, nor wood they appreciate it. My boss bought one of my pipes. Artistically, its one of a few I'd consider High grade. He bought it for the art. Well, he decide to smoke it. Well, that experiment lasted about ONE bowl. He has since told me his father tried it back in the day but didn't continue for the same reasons...
Anyway Gents, Politely assert yourselfs in the drugstore. Just do it early AM or even late PM. I've found the clerks like the human interaction as opposed to just standing there staying awake!
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ted
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Please don't let this get out, Sparta is a small town and couldn't stand the traffic. There is a Mom & Pop Drug store (Halsey Drug) that has a complete Skliner mounted on the wall. It is about 9 ft. long and has 10-12 dozen Grabows on it. Many are left over from Lane and some from pre-Lane. NOW THE PROBLEM. As it has always been with such a display, it is mounted so high that no-one can reach it. Ask the girl behind the counter to go get a stepladder and climb up to get a pipe. Bet your butt she'll be grinning when she gets there! Halsey's is the Drugstore I use, so they'll bear it.
Next time I'm in I'll do an inventory and post it here. I'd be glad to buy anything for anyone for cost and shipping and maybe a small contribution to this forum.
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Sir Duke
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| ted wrote: | Please don't let this get out, Sparta is a small town and couldn't stand the traffic. There is a Mom & Pop Drug store (Halsey Drug) that has a complete Skliner mounted on the wall. It is about 9 ft. long and has 10-12 dozen Grabows on it. Many are left over from Lane and some from pre-Lane. NOW THE PROBLEM. As it has always been with such a display, it is mounted so high that no-one can reach it. Ask the girl behind the counter to go get a stepladder and climb up to get a pipe. Bet your butt she'll be grinning when she gets there! Halsey's is the Drugstore I use, so they'll bear it.
Next time I'm in I'll do an inventory and post it here. I'd be glad to buy anything for anyone for cost and shipping and maybe a small contribution to this forum. |
Any 83's let me know..... I'm also in the market for an Author shape... And, believe it or not an official Grabow Cob....
(Mac will want to buy the WHOLE display so I figured I'd get my picks in early)
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ted
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TM...Sorry, I had already decided that any #83's were going to you. Didn't know about the 81. I don't think there are any Cobs on it.
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Sir Duke
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| ted wrote: | | TM...Sorry, I had already decided that any #83's were going to you. Didn't know about the 81. I don't think there are any Cobs on it. |
just shoot me a line telling me how much I owe ya including shipping and I'll pay you however you like.
The 81 is just something I felt the need to have One of as it is a cousin to 83... Frankly I'm not even a big fan of the Author shape. They just look like a Turd sticking out of my mouth anyway. Not attractive..
Thanks ted
For Those who haven't seen the shape charts:
81= Author Shape
83= Bent Bulldog
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ted
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Gig.. I know for certain that Halsey Drug has 6 Duke for $22.10 each. If you want them, I'll get em' for you and send them to you. Bet I'll get um' to you too. You make the call. I do think they are all domestic....no Italy.
Or....I will be taking a picture of the "unit" in the next few days and posting it (I hope). Wait for the picture.... May be a couple gone by then. Then you can pick......-TED-
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GrabowGuy
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I live in South Phila, Pa. and in all the CVS', and Rite-Aids, I've only seen Omegas!
Wallgreens, NOTHING! I gotta check out another CVS a little further from here or go into NJ. They may have a better selection in New Jersey. The bridge is a Mile and a half from my house and there are a number of CVS' off of Rte 168.
I'll give it a shot! All I want is a little Duke Billiard. If I can't find what I want or something I like, I'll have to go on line and break out the credit card.
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Sir Duke
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| GrabowGuy wrote: | I live in South Phila, Pa. and in all the CVS', and Rite-Aids, I've only seen Omegas!
Wallgreens, NOTHING! I gotta check out another CVS a little further from here or go into NJ. They may have a better selection in New Jersey. The bridge is a Mile and a half from my house and there are a number of CVS' off of Rte 168.
I'll give it a shot! All I want is a little Duke Billiard. If I can't find what I want or something I like, I'll have to go on line and break out the credit card. |
I've head better luck with Rite Aid lately as CVS seems to begun a campaign toward poilitcal correctness...
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Igor Polski
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The Discount Drug Mart store in Independence, Ohio still has it's pipes and
pipe tobacco out so you can actually touch them. That is the place I recently got my first Dr. Grabow from, a bent smooth finish Omega. It's a nice smoking pipe. The only thing...why did someone carve a couple leaves in the bowl on the stem side?
~Igor Polski
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drbridges
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That's what the spanish call pilon. A little something of extra value thrown into the deal.
Perhaps there was a small pit in the wood, too large to ignore, but too small to fill. They may be done freehand. If so, they're doing a fine job with the leaves.
How do you like the mouthpiece, Igor?
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Texhealer
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I don't know about the pipes but something to keep in mind about "getting behind the counter" Some states, Texas for instance, it is illeagal to allow "self service" tobacco sales except in a tobacco shop.
We have cigarettes in an old cabinit with sliding glass doors set out so it's easy for customers to get to and I am constantly having to tell people that "it's open you can get what you want" It took quite a while but I finally figured out why everybody assumed it was locked....anywhere but a tobacco shop and it would be.
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steverino
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About a year ago, the WalMarts in central NC had a fire sale on all their Grabow pipes and pipe cleaners (not Dills). These were sold for about half price, then no more were ordered. The CVS pharmacies in the area do still carry a few Grabows and some tobacco. The best places in NC (that I know of) to see a reasonable selection of Grabows are the three locations of JR Cigars. They all have a good-sized display rack and have a number of models. Some I remember are Big Pipe, Omega, Royalton, Golden Duke, Full Bent. And there were others, too.
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Igor Polski
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I really like the military mouthpiece on my Omega, drbridges. It simply has a nicer feel to me than the standard bit. I will be buying another.
The little hand-carved leaves are starting to say,"We came with your pipe, Igor, and are part of the experience." I must agree with them. The leaves are definitely pilon.
~Igor Polski
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Igor Polski
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I went back to the Discount Drug Mart where I found my Omega and the Grabow's had been restocked. The Omega I bought was the last smooth one they had and there are now two more on the peg. The carved Omega that was the only one left last week is no longer there. It followed me home. There were also a few more that weren't there last week. A couple bent Savoys?
The carved Omega is different in size from my smooth one. It's about 1/8th inch smaller around the bowl, about the same shorter from the mouth-piece to the far side of the bowl and the height of the bowl is about 1/4 inch shorter. I'll let you know how it smokes.
~Igor
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drbridges
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Live & learn. I never knew there was more than one size of Omega pipes.
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ted
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Dr. B....#67 small medium, #37L large medium, #47 senior.......That was the Omega shapes. #47 is a "bunch" larger than the #67....for Grabow.....
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drbridges
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All of my Omega pipes must be the same size.
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ozark southpaw
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Three sizes? I quess I'm going to have to buy some Omegas now. I have owned only one and did not like it. It seemed to have a burn out at the air hole-tobacco chamber juncture and smoked like crap and would leave a lot of unburned tobacco at the bottom of the bowl. But after reading comments here I may have to re-think!Three sizes X different finishes means I got a lot of pipes to buy,And I dont have all the Dukes yet! Plus I have recently fell in love with the Berwycks!!
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ted
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OS....Berwycks are "tough" to collect". It was the second most popular pipe in the RJR/GRABOW line (after Westbrook), but if I remember correctly, there were 117 shapes. GOOD LUCK. I'll help all I can...
Airhole on your Omega may be too low. Ask Dr. B how to remedy that. And as I just wrote Dr. B, I don't think Grabow is still making the Omega in #47. Duh!. Just went through the factory, and didn't see ANY #47. Probably out of stummels, and #67 is much easier to make, and cheaper.
And I can buy for you 6 Duke at $22.50 ea., from the local drugstore. Didn't write down the shapes, but I'll go and see, if you are interested..........ted
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Igor Polski
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Well, I put half a bowl of Carter Hall in my new carved Omega and took it outside for a leaf raking session. It smokes every bit as nicely as my larger Omega did when new. One thing about this pipe...it's much lighter in the mouth so is easier for the teeth to hold on to while working. Also the carved bowl makes for a grippy surface even with wet hands. It is a natural for working outdoors.
I feel the need for another Grabow coming upon me. Perhaps one of the bent Savoys.
~Igor
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Gig
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Sounds great Igor, i will have to get myself a Omega oneday
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ozark southpaw
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Ted,would you pulling my leg?? 117 shapes? How am I gonna explainn that to the wife? 117 ? Really? Six Dukes--quess I better pass. Trying to save my pennies for some pipe making tools.
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ted
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OS...Believe 117 is wrong. Just stuck in my head for some reason. Probably more like 70 to 80. Not nearly as daunting now, is it?
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ozark southpaw
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Only 70 or 80? Might be able to slide that by her!!
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drbridges
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Don't let her see them all at once. That's the secret.
Knew a guy who made sure all of his rifles were bolt action stainless steel with black synthetic stocks. They looked like the same rifle to his wife. But don't let her see the gun safe.
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Texhealer
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Just thought I'd throw this out there, Last night I had a customer looking for a less expensive first pipe, and the cheapest thing we had in stock was about $70.
I told him if it was me I'd hit CVS and Walgreens and see what he could find, he came back from CVS with a nice looking little Grand Duke for $21, and I hooked him up with tobacco and accesories and gave him about 30 minutes of pipe smoking 101.
So in Abilene, the drug stores still carry pipes. While discussing it with another customer she said that Walgreens also had 3 or 4 styles of Grabows.
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ozark southpaw
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Was in the local Walgreens yesterday. They had only a couple of Dukes.Did not buy one as I have plenty of Dukes at present.
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Gig
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| Texhealer wrote: | Just thought I'd throw this out there, Last night I had a customer looking for a less expensive first pipe, and the cheapest thing we had in stock was about $70.
I told him if it was me I'd hit CVS and Walgreens and see what he could find, he came back from CVS with a nice looking little Grand Duke for $21, and I hooked him up with tobacco and accesories and gave him about 30 minutes of pipe smoking 101.
So in Abilene, the drug stores still carry pipes. While discussing it with another customer she said that Walgreens also had 3 or 4 styles of Grabows. |
That was very nice of you to do that. Some retailers would of tried to sell him the 70 dollar pipe instead, kudos to you
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Terry292
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"I told him if it was me I'd hit CVS and Walgreens and see what he could find, he came back from CVS with a nice looking little Grand Duke for $21, and I hooked him up with tobacco and accesories and gave him about 30 minutes of pipe smoking 101."
God knows, lots of us started with Dr Grabows and smoked them for years before we knew there was anything else out there. And, some of us are slowly migrating back toward Dr G's, especially the older ones.
I'm reminded of some of the old farmers I knew as a child. Most of them had a can of PA or SWR, a pack of OCB rolling papers, and a Dr Grabow or Medico somewhere in their bib overall pockets.
Terry
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Sir Duke
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Godd go!
Would you stock a few Dr G's in the shop for such occassion... ?
No need to display even really, just to keep someone from walking away?
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Mike Leverette
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I stopped by the CVS pharmacy last night to stock up on candy corn and noticed they carried two styles of Grabow along with Missouri Meerschaums. Since they will not allow anyone behind the counter, along with my old, I mean OLD, eyesight, I could not tell which models they were.
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ted
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Mike...CVS has another whole section of $6.95 glasses.....Borrow a pair and then put em' back....
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gillywalker
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I went on a Grabow hunt last week. I hit a Walmart and found only smaller bowled Grabows. I almost wondered if these weren't being targeted towards people wanting to smoke a different type of weed.
I went to two Walgreens and found similar results. So i ended up at the local tobacconist and bought a basket briar.
I live in a suburb of Chicago and we have a grocery chain here called Jewel. The few I've been to have had no Grabows. Until tonight! I went shopping with my girlfriend and this Jewel out by her folks place had 4 rows of Grabows. I didn't get to look through them but I'll certainly be going back there in the future. They also had Half and Half which is something I've been looking for now for the past 3 weeks.
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Sir Duke
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Back to Jewels it is then!
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AmericanHussar
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We've got some Half and Half here in Indy. No Grabows though.
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Texhealer
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| Sir Duke wrote: | Godd go!
Would you stock a few Dr G's in the shop for such occassion... ?
No need to display even really, just to keep someone from walking away? |
I would if it was up to me, sadly tis not....I'll lean on the boss tho. I'm not sure where we would get them from wholesale, we have carried some rejects tho in the past, or at least I assume they were, stamped Grabow then xxx over them, they sold like loose joints at a Grateful dead concert.
We try to keep some stuff in the $30 to $40 price range, but sold out. I know there was no way I would have spent $80 on my first pipe so yeah I'll tell 'em to go somewhere else in a heartbeat, I figure they'll apreaciate the honesty and be back for all the extras and most likely other pipes, so even if we lose out on the inital sale, it's still good business.
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drbridges
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| Quote: | | I'm not sure where we would get them from wholesale |
The DG Web Site is under construction, and it is going to be available Real Soon!
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LokoMac8
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| drbridges wrote: | | Quote: | | I'm not sure where we would get them from wholesale |
The DG Web Site is under construction, and it is going to be available Real Soon! |
Lil' Brown Smoke Shack (online) has the following, with prices for comparison to other sellers. Prices in parenthesis are what the last price list I got direct from Sparta mail order had them, with smooth finish being a dollar more per pipe than listed:
Dr Grabow
Product Name+ Price Buy Now Quantity (Factory Price)
DR. GRABOW Big Pipe $40.20 9 ($32.26)
DR. GRABOW Cardinal $27.95 9 ($21.89)
DR. GRABOW Duke $21.65 10 ($16.66)
DR. GRABOW Free Hand $29.60 19 ($23.30)
DR. GRABOW Full Bent $26.45 19 ($------)
DR. GRABOW Golden Duke $26.00 12 ($20.47)
DR. GRABOW Grand Duke $23.05 19 ($17.86)
DR. GRABOW Lark $20.60 28 ($16.22)
DR. GRABOW Omega $27.15 20 ($21.36)
DR. GRABOW Redwood $30.90 13 ($-------)
DR. GRABOW Riviera $23.05 12 ($17.86)
DR. GRABOW Royal Duke $25.50 18 ($--------)
DR. GRABOW Royalton $30.05 10 ($23.75)
DR. GRABOW Savoy $26.45 20 ($20.77)
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Thought it might also be interesting as to what line names are available and also the range of prices that can be found. --RJ--
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LokoMac8
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| LokoMac8 wrote: |
Dr Grabow
Product Name+ Price Buy Now Quantity (Factory Price)
DR. GRABOW Grand Duke $23.05 19 ($17.86) |
I was just out doing some Christmas shopping, hitting all the sales about an hour too late, but stopped in the Walgreen's at Belton, Texas. They had several big bags of pipe tobacco, two corn cob pipes and ONE, yes, just ONE Dr. Grabow pipe hanging on a peg on the wall. It was a GRAND DUKE priced at $19.98.
They also had one bubble pack of three boxes of Dr. Grabow filters. That was all I noticed, but I didn't really go in there looking for pipes or tobacco.
Also went to the Belton Walmart, but if they had any pipes or pipe tobacco, it was well hid under the counter. All I saw were cigarettes. Maybe they had something else, but it would have taken asking (and finding someone to ask) and someone some digging to find it. So much for the marketing benefit of a display board to push Dr. Grabow pipes. Out of sight, out of mind seems to be the rule of the day. --RJ--
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drbridges
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New DG SavoyWas in local CVS today and I purchased a new DG SAVOY. There were only 2 on their rack. I chose the one with better grain. I have an affection for these little filter DG pipes.
It is: Made in America
By Americans
For Americans
This Dr. Grabow pipe has been carefully crafted in the Blue Ridge Mountains of North Carolina. Our employees, many with more than 40 years in pipe-making, bring a total of some 1400 years of skill to creating the best value-for-quality pipes available in the USA today. Made from quality, natural Mediterranean briar, each pipe passes through 52 production phases, with quality control checks at every stage. Every Dr. Grabow pipe is unique.
Care should be taken when using your new pipe for the first six of seven times. Half fill the bowl for the first few smokes and then alternate between full and half full bowls, for the next three or four. This allows the heel of the bowl and the bowl itself to develop an even, protective carbon coating which will extend the life of your pipe. Carbon will build up on the inside of the bowl. And provide a natural 'heat shield' which protects the briar bowl. The carbon layer should be allowed to build up until it is no more than the thickness of a dime.
If you want to know more about the Dr. Grabow range of pipes and our other products or where to purchase them, please contact us at:
International Pipes & Accessories, LLC
PO Box 849
Sparta, NC 28675
Phone: (336) 372-5521
Fax: (336) 372-2875
email: info@internationalpipes.com
It is stamped: DR. GRABOW
IMPORTED BRIAR
Nothing more. No SAVOY on it.
OH, I forgot! It cost $27.89
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ted
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Dr.B...Wonderful Editorial comment, although I didn't see you mention the website....OK, maybe the website is too busy to accept any new viewers.....
Remember, from the David 64 deal that went "south", I still have a Savoy #67........in NC.....if you would like it, we have several months of negotiation ahead, 'cause it'll be April before I'm back in Carolina....ted
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drbridges
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#67 ... that's not included in my shape charts
Is it a small #37?
I enjoy negotiations. Lookin' forward tuit.
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ted
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Guys.....I finally got so aggravated about the web-site that I called the IP&A plant manager at home.......................His name is Rick Wooten, and I hired him. He's the only one left in the "office" from my regime.......
Rick said "The web-site will be up by January 5, 09'. I said, If not, You'll get calls from me and about 25 other Graboites.......His ass is mine...
All area codes are 336........factory 372-5521 ,,,,Rick's home...372-8174.....Rick's Cell..657.-2040....Bet your ass I'll be calling on the 6th..........ted
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ted
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Dr. B.....You don't READ nearly as well as you write...................Several of us have idea's but you seem to ignore them......re-read some "stuff" and you'll find it (about the # 67).....Matter of fact, re-read a bunch....You may learn something......Just a suggestion......ted
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drbridges
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| Quote: | | Dr. B....#67 small medium, #37L large medium, #47 senior.......That was the Omega shapes. |
Readin' what other people are writin' is just too confoozn, ted.
| Quote: | | Rick said "The web-site will be up by January 5, 09'. |
Hope it doesn't use the recent javascript that crashes my old browser.
Read an Private Investigator's report on the Legacy site re a phone call to DG. He was investigating the use of RIVIERA in tobacco enterprises. He spoke to Margaret, and she sounded very helpful.
He also pursued a cigar company that used RIVIERA. He gave that up.
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ted
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| drbridges wrote: | | Quote: | | Dr. B....#67 small medium, #37L large medium, #47 senior.......That was the Omega shapes. |
Readin' what other people are writin' is just too confoozn, ted. |
Dr. B.....All I ask is that you put your intellegence away for a minute or two, and imagine that someone else has an idea....Read what we write........We're ALL trying to go in the same direction....Humor us.....ted
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ozark southpaw
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I guess if I call any of those numbers on the 6th and get a busy signal I'll know why!!!
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drbridges
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Someone here asked if DG made any non-filter pipes. I believe these Sir Walter Raleigh and Smoker's Pride pipes are mortise/tenon made for Lane by the DG Sparta factory. They offer only 3 DG shapes - 36, 37, and 83 w/o bead in a variety of finishes.
http://www.pipetobacco.com/page/pipet/CTGY/lanpipe
I'm not certain who makes the Captain Black and Lane Ltd. pipes. I haven't scrutinized those shapes.
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gillywalker
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| drbridges wrote: | Someone here asked if DG made any non-filter pipes. I believe these Sir Walter Raleigh and Smoker's Pride pipes are mortise/tenon made for Lane by the DG Sparta factory. They offer only 3 DG shapes - 36, 37, and 83 w/o bead in a variety of finishes.
http://www.pipetobacco.com/page/pipet/CTGY/lanpipe
I'm not certain who makes the Captain Black and Lane Ltd. pipes. I haven't scrutinized those shapes. |
Those are actually kinda cool looking.
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LokoMac8
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| ted wrote: | Guys.....I finally got so aggravated about the web-site that I called the IP&A plant manager at home.......................His name is Rick Wooten, and I hired him. He's the only one left in the "office" from my regime.......
Rick said "The web-site will be up by January 5, 09'. I said, If not, You'll get calls from me and about 25 other Graboites.......His ass is mine...
All area codes are 336........factory 372-5521 ,,,,Rick's home...372-8174.....Rick's Cell..657.-2040....Bet your ass I'll be calling on the 6th..........ted |
Just in time for those CHRISTMAS GIFT SALES!!! --RJ--
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drbridges
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| Quote: | | Those are actually kinda cool looking. |
The Lane SWR pipes arrived today. They are vps, non-filter, non-cleaner. Made in Sparta DG factory, probably between 2000-2006.
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Gig
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Very nice pipes you have acquired, congrats and enjoy them both
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ted
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Dr.B...
Absolutely Grabow shapes. Lane must have "held back" some "stuff" when they sold to Jim Burns....Can't get a good look at the bulldog, but the bent looks to be "
A" quality...full grain, no flaws?......Wonder how many they have?.....ted
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drbridges
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ted, I hoped you might recognize the boxes, although I'm sure these came long after you left.
These are the Esquire SWR btw, appears to be natural variegated stain.
The #83 has 3 tiny fills. #37 has none I can see. The bowls are carbonized. I cannot detect pre-smoking.
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ted
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Dr.B.....Two color finish, as we have discussed, darker stain applied, and then a tinted matt lacquer applied.
The boxes are not familiar, although Greene Printing in Lexington or High Point, NC
had the "cutting dies" for the Grabow boxes. Could be that Lane used them rather than the $1000 or so to make a new die. Printing is easy, cutting to spec's is tough.
The #83 with small fills, and the #37L clean makes perfect sense to me. In inventory there would have been a BUNCH....BUNCH....fewer good qualitiy stummels for the #83 than for the #37L. Looks as if these were made to be "top of the line" pipes.....ted
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drbridges
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| Quote: | | The boxes are not familiar, although Greene Printing in Lexington or High Point, NC had the "cutting dies" for the Grabow boxes. |
I'm no expert, but I think these boxes are the clay coated you've talked about. The ends are folded and tucked. They're not the 2-piece top & bottom I've seen used for earlier DG pipes.
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drbridges
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Anyway, guys, if you're looking for some non-filter DG pipes, these appear to be a good buy.
They came out of Austin, Texas (800) 962-5003 BR Internet
The #83 was $24.95
The #37 was $26.95
Shipping was $7.95. I also ordered nearly 4lbs. of tobacco.
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LokoMac8
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| drbridges wrote: | | Quote: | | Those are actually kinda cool looking. |
The Lane SWR pipes arrived today. They are vps, non-filter, non-cleaner. Made in Sparta DG factory, probably between 2000-2006. |
Very interesting! Now this reminds me of a box and pipe that has been a mystery to me. It was supposedly a Dr. Grabow pipe made/marked for Tom Dunn's "smoking contest." I never could figure out if it was properly identified, as little about the pipe looked like a familiar Dr. Grabow. The stem emblem looked like it was on TOP for one thing. The sort of bevelled bowl top for another. But the box . . . the BOX which heretofore struck no cord with me, looks much like the one you pictured for your LANE pipes. Hmm.
Maybe the boxes are just generic pipe boxes? --RJ--
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drbridges
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| Quote: | | Maybe the boxes are just generic pipe boxes? --RJ-- |
Certainly not generic. They are made for the Finest Imported Briar pipes.
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LokoMac8
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| drbridges wrote: | | Quote: | | Maybe the boxes are just generic pipe boxes? --RJ-- |
Certainly not generic. They are made for the Finest Imported Briar pipes. |
Heh, Heh! Got me on that one . . . --RJ--
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drbridges
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That was probably the pipe box under Lane Ltd. Mine didn't come with a pretty blue flannel sock though. Just tissue paper.
You didn't win that Dunn Smoking Contest pipe, did you?
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LokoMac8
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| drbridges wrote: | That was probably the pipe box under Lane Ltd. Mine didn't come with a pretty blue flannel sock though. Just tissue paper.
You didn't win that Dunn Smoking Contest pipe, did you? |
No, I sure didn't. I can't remember the details at this late date, but I think I suspected it wasn't a Dr. Grabow and successfully procrastinated until the auction end slipped by. I can't remember if I chunked a token early bid at it or not. Long story, short, I didn't get it and have never seen or heard of another one. I suspect it came from around the 2000 era.
I missed a "MOBIL OILS" Dr. Grabow the same way. Back then, even if I bid, I thought that I should pay more than about $5.00 for a Grabow, so I often got outbid.
I have read a lot of Tom Dunn's THE PIPE SMOKERS EPHEMERIS magazines, but never have read about any Tom Dunn pipe smoking contest or special pipe made for it. Of course, I never had every single issue of that publication. --RJ--
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Follow up on those Lane/Sparta made SWR pipes: I discovered yesterday that although they are push tenon stems, the briar shank is drilled for tampon filters. If I trim a filter short, it will fit in the shank with room for the stem tenon. So I have a filtered pipe with push tenon joint.
They are both good smokers, btw.
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drbridges
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http://www.pipetobacco.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc
This store site also lists Captain Black pipes among their SWR pipes under the Lane category. These pipes would have come along after ted was gone, but I wonder if the Captain Black pipes listed on eBay are also Sparta products from the Lane era?
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Drb. I have a Captain Black"Yeoman" in my junk box(stem is shot) It is marked Made in France,and has an anchor on the stem.
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drbridges
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This is the Captain Black Yeoman made by Lane being sold from the previously identified merchant. Is it like yours?
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ozark southpaw
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My Captain Black is a smooth Canadian,but appears to have the same style of anchor. Could some or all of them have been sourced out to someone other that Sparta maybe? Edit-- I lied Dr.b, my CB pipe has a sandblast type finish!!
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ted
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Promised not to, but here goes, in my STUPID way. Google "denicotea pipes"....Click on the 9mm link. In the search bar type "Dr. Grabow". Maybe several of you have found this. I hadn't.
These are the customers that aren't crazy about a Grabow web-site......I've done my "DUTY", and given YOU a chance.
Sorry brother.....you are out........ted
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drbridges
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Denicotea site says: | Quote: | | Please note: These pipes come in assorted shapes, sizes and stems. |
See, as a pipe smoker that simply isn't acceptable. I won't spend $25 on a crap shoot pipe. DG has to get beyond the old display board paradigm that says, "We will make a dozen Larks in various shapes, and when those 12 are sold, we will make 12 more. You don't like the small straight pear that's left on the display board? Sorry, until someone takes it we won't make any more."
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ted
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Yes, Dr.B., I agee. We should be able to buy THE pipe and THE finish we want.
No guesswork. Rick.....Are you listening.........ted
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TheDuke
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| ted wrote: | | Rick.....Are you listening......... |
I would guess not.....
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