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steverino Golden Duke

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Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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It does seem weird. The grocery stores have cut way down on anything related to pipe tobacco. Walmart only has a few pouches of Captain Black regular and Royal and some Prince Albert. Also a couple of bag-type products, Smoker's Choice or some such. The Food lion keeps one tin of Captain Black and one tin of SWR regular - and that's it. The CVS, last time I looked, had nothing. Could it be that people around here have been listening to Hugh Holliman long enough that the anti-tobacco message is beginning to take hold? I don't believe he'll go back to Raleigh again, though.
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ted "Old Timer"

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Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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| PLEASE,PLEASE...do something with Holliman. I've had all of him that I can stand.......Please tell me who to contribute to.....whoever can beat him..ted |
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steverino Golden Duke

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Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 12:18 am Post subject: |
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| Our county commissioners chairman, Fred McClure, will be running against Holliman. I believe he has a very good chance of winning. |
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steverino Golden Duke

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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 12:37 am Post subject: |
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Well, since this is the SWR thread, I thought I'd put my comments about SWR and SWR aromatic here.
SWR
Two things about this tobacco caught my attention right off the bat. One was the pouch aroma - licorice - most definitely licorice. One reads all the time about licorice being used as a flavoring in tobacco products, but this is the first time I've ever been able to clearly detect its presence in a pipe tobacco. The aroma does not, however, transfer to the smoke.
The other thing I noticed was how light a smoke SWR is. It was almost difficult to assess the flavor/aroma once lit. I was actually surprised at how light it is. I've smoked Prince Albert, Carter Hall, Half and Half and Edgeworth and SWR is far and away the lightest tasting of them all to me. There is a slight bite on and off throughout the bowl, but this can be mitigated with slow, easy puffing.
The texture of the tobacco is interesting. It appears to be a cube-cut, but I would call it a "random" cube cut. There are lots of pieces in the mix that aren't exactly cubical, but not ribbon cut either. Either way, it packs fine and is easy to light.
How does one characterize the flavor? This is a bit of challenge as light as it is. Burley is burley, after all, and if you've smoked one, you've smoked them all, right? Well, maybe not. Of the "drugstore" burlies I've smoked, they fall into two distinct groups: the more or less "straight" burlies (PA* and CH) and burley/Virginia blends (H&H and Edgeworth). Though I can find no real evidence of Virginia tobacco in SWR, the taste seems to lean in that direction to me. The first 1/4 to 1/3 of the bowl reminds me more of Edgeworth than PA, and that's a good thing, as I prefer that direction myself.
Once the halfway mark is reached, the initial flavor is all but gone. What remains is what I call "plain burley". I get this same taste from pretty much any burley blend at this point in the bowl. The question is, will it turn bitter or sour? SWR did not go bitter on me, but I do get just a little sourness near the end. Not enough to dump it, mind you, but close.
SWR finishes up with a respectable salt and pepper dottle and little, if any, moisture in the pipe. I felt a very small effect from nicotine, again putting it into the category of a mild tobacco.
I would certainly recommend SWR to anyone looking for an all day, every day smoke with a burley tobacco. It should work wonderfully well in this application.
* PA is said to have some Virginia in the mix but you can't prove it by me.
SWR Aromatic
A sweeter pouch aroma greets the nose with SWR Aromatic. The smell is almost dessert-like but, alas, as with SWR, the aroma doesn't transfer to the smoke...except maybe a little bit.
The consistency of SWR-A is a little more ribbon-like, with the appearance of some bright tobacco in the mix. The sweetness of the flavor vouches for this, as some of the taste is bound to be from a bit of Virginia leaf. There is also the taste of the casing but it is not overpowering to me. In fact, I like the way the casing seems to combine with the Virginia to keep a sort of consistency throughout the bowl. The flavor is not as sweet at the end, to be sure, but it is there, and that's what I like most in any tobacco - consistency.
Many of the characteristics of SWR-A are similar to SWR. Packing is easy, lighting is easy, just a teeny little bit of bite here and there (but I think less than with SWR) and the finish is relatively dry with maybe a bit of a moist bottom in the bowl - no moisture running around in the pipe as with some blends.
One thing I noticed about SWR-A is the volume of smoke. This stuff can make you look like a steam locomotive! Probably just my imagination, but it does seem to produce a lot of smoke. It does not, however, produce much in the way of nicotine effects and this is fine with me. I've never cared for getting dizzy and weak in the knees anyway.
As with SWR, SWR-A could definitely be an all day smoke. I can easily see how this tobacco has been around for many years. I'd recommend it to any smoker looking for a good, general-purpose aromatic for every day use. |
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LokoMac8 Tru-Grain

Joined: 19 May 2008 Posts: 990
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:20 am Post subject: |
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| steverino wrote: | | Either way, it packs fine and is easy to light. |
Would you say that it "packs tight and smokes right?" -- wasn't that the old SWR slogan in old ads?
| steverino wrote: | | * PA is said to have some Virginia in the mix but you can't prove it by me. |
I always thought that both CH and PA had sort of a whiskey or peach brandy type smell to them when you first open the can. As I've mentioned though, I am not a very good tester or reviewer on things like this as I don't have a clue.
| steverino wrote: | | It does not, however, produce much in the way of nicotine effects and this is fine with me. I've never cared for getting dizzy and weak in the knees anyway. |
That's another thing that alludes me is the effects of nicotine, maybe because I don't inhale much. But then, I am sort of dead to the effects of sugar and caffeine, etc., so maybe my senses are just dull. I always blame it on too many jalapenos and hot sauce.
| steverino wrote: | | As with SWR, SWR-A could definitely be an all day smoke. I can easily see how this tobacco has been around for many years. I'd recommend it to any smoker looking for a good, general-purpose aromatic for every day use. |
Great review, Steve! You have me wanting to give both another try! --RJ-- |
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BWThomas Golden Duke

Joined: 12 Jul 2009 Posts: 450
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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:28 am Post subject: |
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Steve, that was excellent. I have been waiting like a kid waiting for Christmas to read your review on the SWRs. You certainly have a knack for this.
Just two comments... The SWR we're smoking right now is not as cubed as I have experienced in the past. In fact, when I opened the pouch, I was surprised to see the appearance to be so different from what I have had with SWR regular. It had always been dryer and the cube was actually hard little nuggets of tobacco.
And... nictotine. I do believe that at one time, this was back when Brown & Williamson was producing this blend, was at a greater level. I recall when my brother-in-law and I would sit by the pool and get high off this stuff. But then, it may not have been the nicotine, but the coumarin that was part of the recipe back then. It was a better blend then, taste wise.
Conwood produces this now, the same company that puts out Captain Black and Smoker's Pride.
Now, I am hoping that you can relate what you have experienced with these two to some of the high priced blends you have smoked, especially the Aromatic. Is there something out there with this sweetness, but with a bit more punch...without the goop and gurgle?
Excellent review Steve, very nice!
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steverino Golden Duke

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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:19 am Post subject: |
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| LokoMac8 wrote: | | That's another thing that alludes me is the effects of nicotine, maybe because I don't inhale much. But then, I am sort of dead to the effects of sugar and caffeine, etc., so maybe my senses are just dull. I always blame it on too many jalapenos and hot sauce. |
RJ, thanks for the comments. You may just not be as sensitive to it as I am. I don't inhale the smoke at all - ever. When I have done so accidentally, it sends me into wretching fits of coughing so hard that it scares me. I just was not cut out to be an inhaler. I've heard some people do, but not me. However - nicotine is readily absorbed into the blood stream through the soft tissues of the mouth and nose, so even those of us who don't inhale will feel the effects more or less, depending on the strength of the tobacco. |
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steverino Golden Duke

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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:31 am Post subject: |
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| BWThomas wrote: | Now, I am hoping that you can relate what you have experienced with these two to some of the high priced blends you have smoked, especially the Aromatic. Is there something out there with this sweetness, but with a bit more punch...without the goop and gurgle?
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Barry, thanks for the comments on my review and thanks for the additional information about the SWR. It would truly be interesting to try some of the old blend now to see how it compares.
On the other blends you are talking about, are you looking for what we'd just call an "aromatic", or are you looking to duplicate the SWR-A with the burley and Virginia components?
I sent out some aromatic samples the other day and could send you some of the same - I might not have any more of one of them - but these are what you might call "higher end" aromatics. I am not a real big aromatic smoker but I have accumulated several that are pretty good. One I can tell you about now is Autumn Evening from Cornell and Diehl. It has a red Virginia base instead of the typical (sometimes inferior) burley base and a maple casing that is subtle rather than blatant. Since you were kind enough to send me the SWR, why don't you let me send you some samples of what I've got? It'll be no trouble and I'm pretty sure I have enough of most of them left to send you 5 to 7 bowls worth of each. But if not, I'll send what I can. Just lemme know. |
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BWThomas Golden Duke

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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:37 am Post subject: |
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| steverino wrote: | | BWThomas wrote: | Now, I am hoping that you can relate what you have experienced with these two to some of the high priced blends you have smoked, especially the Aromatic. Is there something out there with this sweetness, but with a bit more punch...without the goop and gurgle?
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Barry, thanks for the comments on my review and thanks for the additional information about the SWR. It would truly be interesting to try some of the old blend now to see how it compares.
On the other blends you are talking about, are you looking for what we'd just call an "aromatic", or are you looking to duplicate the SWR-A with the burley and Virginia components?
I sent out some aromatic samples the other day and could send you some of the same - I might not have any more of one of them - but these are what you might call "higher end" aromatics. I am not a real big aromatic smoker but I have accumulated several that are pretty good. One I can tell you about now is Autumn Evening from Cornell and Diehl. It has a red Virginia base instead of the typical (sometimes inferior) burley base and a maple casing that is subtle rather than blatant. Since you were kind enough to send me the SWR, why don't you let me send you some samples of what I've got? It'll be no trouble and I'm pretty sure I have enough of most of them left to send you 5 to 7 bowls worth of each. But if not, I'll send what I can. Just lemme know. |
Steve, you are welcome. I did have the opportunity to compare the old to the new a few years back when I discovered an old pouch of Aromatic in a tool box along with a 'work' pipe. It was a little dry, but delicious. I'm pretty sure it was the 'old stuff', it was the old label with the B&W logo on it. Like most other tobaccos, age does this one well. I usually do keep a couple of 12oz tins of the aromatic 'cellared' in an attempt to get some age on it, but mostly to make sure I don't run out. Unfortunately, it never really gets to sit more than a few months. I have been making an effort here lately to hold some back for a longer period.
I have tried several different blends labeled aromatic, just haven't found the 'one'. So yes, I'd like to find a duplicate. Years back I did come across a tobacco shop in NC, it may have been a tinder box, at the mall on the west side of Raliegh. There was a fellow there that hand blended from his stock. He had a number of blends that he created to 'duplicate' OTC brands with better quality tobaccos. He did a good job. All the good characteristics were there, the signature flavor, but without the sticks and chemicals.
Sure, you can send me a couple of bowls to try. That would be a great start in my quest to find some new favorites.
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BWThomas Golden Duke

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Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Terry292 wrote: | | BWThomas wrote: | | I am wanting to try Walnut, haven't seen it in a pouch, so I'll have to get a tin (tub). Can anyone give me a hint about this one. I was never a true pure English smoker, but I do enjoy Stokkebye English Luxury, which I understand to be a 'near' English. And I've read that Walnut has a bit of a nicotine punch to it. Some of the reviews I've read about it makes it sound like the Chesterfield cigarettes my grandfather smoked. Pap would breakup a cigarette and stuff it in a pipe....said the paper was bad for you!BW |
Barry, Walnut has been my regular smoking tobacco for years now. I'm not much good at reviews, but the latakia isn't that pronounced. It used to be advertised as a blend of the world's seven finest tobaccos. To me, it's more of an American English. By that I mean the burley is foremost, and the rest of the tobaccos complement it.
I used to smoke Lane's Crown Achievement, which is a latakia heavy tobacco, but it got too expensive, and then disappeared altogether. The Walnut isn't quite as latakia-intense, but it's noticeable.
I figure, it's been around since 1856 in the same basic blend, so it must have something going for it. It doesn't come in a pouch, only 12 oz tubs. Send me your address and I'll send you a few ounces of mine to try.
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Terry, I received the Walnut you sent. I opened the bag and smelled it. Reminded me of the hay loft over a dairy barn I worked at when I was a kid. Sweet grass and oats. I smelled it again and again and I started to wonder if I was going to like this, I didn't want to be disappointed.
I loaded up one of my bent billiards and hit it with a match. Oh...the sweetness! Not a sugar sweet, but the sweeness of the leaf. I can taste the burley and sense the latakia, ever so subtle, just enough to give it some rich flavor. Smokes dry and cool, no bite whatsoever. I like this!
I can see why this is your favorite. I'll make this Walnut one of my regulars. I am truely enjoying this. Thank you Terry, I owe you!
Steve...have you tried this?
I've pulled out another clean pipe and I'm going to have a third bowl.
I have a can here I call my dregs can. At the bottom of a tin or pouch there are the crumbs...not enough to make a bowl, but I hate to throw it away. So...into the dregs can. About a month back I opened the dregs to give it a whiff. Smelled pretty good. It was SWR, SWR aromatic, Lane 1Q, 182 and 184, Stokkeby French vanilla and #2 Whisky, Navy Flake, plus a few others.
There was enough in the can to fill a small leather pouch, About an ounce. That 'blend' was exquisite. Upon first match, a rush of sweetness. I have spent the last month trying to figure out the proportions to that accidental blend. I even bought a digital scale to measure portions, record the recipe, just in case I hit upon it again.
Well...I did! It's called John Middleton Walnut! This is good stuff, and inexpensive too, under 18 a tin online at WVSmokeshop. I'm gettin' some!
Thanks again Terry!
BW
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