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Terry292
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Glad to see you're really getting into this, BW. The more, the merrier.
Terry
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steverino
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| Excellent work there, BW, that is sort of what I had been thinking about doing but have never gotten around to messing with it. Glad you did it. Put me down for a copy of the large format printout when you get it all finished - will be glad to reimburse you for the "cost" if you'll tell me what the "cost" is. I think a mailing tube and postage will be a little bit, too. |
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BWThomas
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I just might be able to hand deliver it for you.
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drbridges
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| Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 3:08 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | What other information, if any, would you like to see posted on a shape chart or in a reference booklet? |
I hate to bring this up because I feel Mac should be doing this  , but a brief summary of the DG lines, when they were produced, whether they were ajusto, push stem metal cleaner, or filter would be nice to include with in a desk reference.
If we had a history chapter, we might have the DG book we've talked about. |
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LokoMac8
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| Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 4:25 am Post subject: Re: shape chart |
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| BWThomas wrote: | | I like to hang this kind of stuff on my home office walls, so I decided to take a little time to clean them up and add a touch of color. I also increased the size of the text so I don't have to put on my glasses or squint to read them. |
WOW, BW, you're blowing my mind! I've been tinkering away with my "Dr. Grabow Master Shape Chart" project for what, DRB, three or four years? Along comes BW and does more in a little while than I have done in a whole lot of while! Very nice work, indeed!
| BWThomas wrote: | | This is where I need everyone's help. What other information, if any, would you like to see posted on a shape chart or in a reference booklet? |
You can get pretty bogged down in information and a lot of the information is still coming in so to speak. I'll let others voice their preferences first, except to say, for a certain era, we could probably add what lines that were available in what shapes. I have several different era shape charts that could help with that.
| BWThomas wrote: | | So...let me know what you think about what you would want on a wall chart, or in a reference binder. BW |
Being a shape number collector, in the order of the shape numbers would be handy, and overall, I would say the reference binder most useful to me. That is sort of how I have mine setup now, only my reference binder images are "contact sheets" and the pictures are basically sizes of thumbnails. My digital pipe files are actually a little bigger than full size and I use them when I really need to compare the shape with a real pipe.
Your work is far superior to mine and you are just the sort of fellow that I always hoped would happen along! I may be able to help you with some other charts and with some shapes we know about that don't seem to be on any chart yet known to us. This is especially true of some of the old Chicago made post-1949 "new" shapes they added, like the two below. There MAY BE a shape chart flosting around for these somewhere, but we just haven't found it yet. --RJ--
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LokoMac8
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| drbridges wrote: | | I hate to bring this up because I feel Mac should be doing this :lol: , but a brief summary of the DG lines, when they were produced, whether they were ajusto, push stem metal cleaner, or filter would be nice to include with in a desk reference. |
Well, you're darn toot'n I SHOULD be, but I was just crawling along at a snail's pace!
I agree with your selection of info to include -- after about 1991 there'll have to be some footnotes or disclaimers, because Lane really started shaking things up as to what line was equipped with what, until, if I remember right, the Regal was the last Ajusto left, although most of the line names still existed. --RJ-- |
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drbridges
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Mac, if Barry has a large scanner, we might send him some full page DG ads from the 1940's to include in the reference binder. Our scans are too low resolution to produce decent copies.
I can see great possibilities if we all contribute and let Barry do the ... oops ... what happened to Barry? 
Anyone seen Barry lately.  |
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BWThomas
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| drbridges wrote: | Mac, if Barry has a large scanner, we might send him some full page DG ads from the 1940's to include in the reference binder. Our scans are too low resolution to produce decent copies.
I can see great possibilities if we all contribute and let Barry do the ... oops ... what happened to Barry?
Anyone seen Barry lately. |
Barry hit the sheets while you guys were were up planning my destiny!
East coast.
This sounds great guys. I have just about fisinshed restoring the 81 Sparta shape chart. I'll start on the 37 Linkman charts tonight. Anthing you can scan and forward to me would be great. If you need to send stuff to me to be scanned, let me know. I can turn it around pretty fast.
...more later -BW
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steverino
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| LokoMac8 wrote: | | drbridges wrote: | | I hate to bring this up because I feel Mac should be doing this , but a brief summary of the DG lines, when they were produced, whether they were ajusto, push stem metal cleaner, or filter would be nice to include with in a desk reference. |
Well, you're darn toot'n I SHOULD be, but I was just crawling along at a snail's pace!
I agree with your selection of info to include -- after about 1991 there'll have to be some footnotes or disclaimers, because Lane really started shaking things up as to what line was equipped with what, until, if I remember right, the Regal was the last Ajusto left, although most of the line names still existed. --RJ-- |
RJ - since you mention the Regal - do you know when it was discontinued? I had assumed it was discontinued by the time Lane bought the company, but from what you said it sounds like it might have continued a while. |
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LokoMac8
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| steverino wrote: | | RJ - since you mention the Regal - do you know when it was discontinued? I had assumed it was discontinued by the time Lane bought the company, but from what you said it sounds like it might have continued a while. |
You know Steve, I don't know if Tom or I are going to be able to accurately answer that question. Tom retired about the time Lane was doing their thing, and I just have a chart and a little information right from the beginning of Lane's tenure.
I am pressed for time right now and not looking at any notes (which I NEED to do as I always seem to misremember things), it seemed that Lane was phasing out the Ajusto parts and as they ran out, they seemed to throw them in the REGALs -- I guess that line was the last one set up for it. How long the Regal line lasted after that, or if any were made that weren't Ajusto, I don't know.
Seems we really need someone from Dr. Grabow/Lane that lived through the period to join us -- they are probably out there somewhere. Each person has their own focus, interest and perspective and it would be great to assemble as many as we can. For better or worse, history is history and the more accurate it is, the better, and we certainly want ALL sides of these colorful stories and adventures in the pipe making business!!! One way or another, whatever happned along the way, and even what is happening now, the Dr. Grabow name, the legend and the factroy still survive and NEW Dr. Grabows are still being made!
I have to admit, I was a bit skeptical and in wonderment about IP&A when they took over, but after visiting the operation, getting to hear Rick Wooten and picking up on some things Jim Burns has said, I feel lots better about the future of Dr. Grabow pipes and the people who make them! --RJ--
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