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steverino Golden Duke

Joined: 15 Oct 2008 Posts: 787
Location: Piedmont North Carolina
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Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:30 am Post subject: |
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Barry, I'm the same way, other pipe smokers are few and far between here. When you go to Pinehurst, how do you travel? You don't happen to go down 220 through Greensboro, do you? I guess you probably take US 1 down through Raleigh. In my opinion, you would enjoy visiting Pipe and Pint in Greensboro. It is a very nice B&M. Small but good. Great tobacco selection and nice smoking area. Also, nice humidor if you like cigars. And a decent pipe selection too, of course.
In fact, if you were to make a stop there, I would come over and meet you if the timing would work out.
Fayetteville isn't too far from Pinehurst. There is Anstead's Tobacco at the Cross Creek mall. I think it's a pretty good shop. There's Pipes by George on Hillsborough Street near the state pen in Raleigh. I am not aware of anything right in Pinehurst but that doesn't mean there's not. You'd think there would be a pretty decent B&M there with all the retired folks around. You might also check Southern Pines or Aberdeen.
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BWThomas Golden Duke

Joined: 12 Jul 2009 Posts: 450
Location: Leesburg, VA
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Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 4:50 pm Post subject: |
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Steve, down 220 thru Greensboro was the way we traveled for years, but lately we've been going down 95 and crossing over on 40 to get to 1 south.
I'll find out what our schedule is. I think we just might be travelling Friday night, which means I'll have most of Saturday free. My brothers-in-law are planning to golf, and I don't any more, so I just may cruise up to Greensboro to meet you. _________________ BWThomas |
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steverino Golden Duke

Joined: 15 Oct 2008 Posts: 787
Location: Piedmont North Carolina
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Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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Barry, that would be a lot of extra driving for you, but if you decide to do it, I'd certainly make arrangements to be there. Just lemme know what you decide.
As always, I'd welcome any other members to join us - it would be good to have a "git-together". |
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BWThomas Golden Duke

Joined: 12 Jul 2009 Posts: 450
Location: Leesburg, VA
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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 8:32 pm Post subject: |
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Steve, I got the samples in the mail today. Thank you!
I've been puffing a pipe on and off for forty years, mostly on. Whenever I had tried a new (to me) tobacco, I felt that I knew whether I liked it or not, right off the bat. As a result of that quick decision making, I have passed over quite a few blends, never to be revisited.
My tastes have changes, and here lately I am finding that there isn't anything that I don't like. I like some more than others, I have my favorites, and I am finding that there are so many more favorites to be found.
Instead of smoking a blend to decide whether I like it and intend to make it a keeper, I now smoke new blends to discover and appreciate what they are intended to be. With this new approach I have taken my pipe smoking enjoyment to a new level. Upon obtaining a new blend, whether a sample from a friend or a new purchase, I seek out existing tobacco reviews online to get a feel for what may be in store.
Steve's review of SG 1792 intriqued me. I went to tobaccoreviews.com and read more and there were folks there who love this, and those who have equated smoking this to smoking death.
Upon first light, I got the burning tire and asphalt sensation that many have written about. I thought...Oh No!...I didn't really expect this. Steve likes this! Then I was searching for the vanilla notes I expected. They weren't there. But before I could even think about being disappointed, I smelled the cigar in the room. Then I tasted and sensed the creaminess of the tonquin in this blend, and I realized how smooth, yet robust this smoke is. The smoke is thick blue-white. I like this, this one is a keeper. There is no vanilla taste in here (to me), the tonquin smooths out the heavy tobacco flavor. It doesn't dilute it, mask it or take it away, it just makes it smooth.
I like aromatics, sweet fruity heavily doctored pipe tobacco. But I also like the other end of the spectrum, the earthy full rich tobacco taste liike this one offers. So if you want a smoke, a real old school pipe smoke, this one is it.
I sampled this one in a small filtered Duke Dublin. I think this would be better enjoyed in a large billiard non-filter. Smoking this is much like smoking a fine cigar and you'll want it to last for awhile.
I'm looking forward to trying the others. _________________ BWThomas |
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LokoMac8 Tru-Grain

Joined: 19 May 2008 Posts: 989
Location: Heidenheimer, Texas
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Posted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:56 pm Post subject: |
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| BWThomas wrote: | | Upon first light, I got the burning tire and asphalt sensation that many have written about. I thought...Oh No!...I didn't really expect this. Steve likes this! |
This is interesting, but something I have observed with many heavily flavored tobaccos -- it seems they just don't work at first light and maybe not until the top layer is good and burned away and things finally get going good. I don't know how to explain it, but it seems like the tobacco has to be hot and going good. That was a sensation I got with Mixture 79, for one. One trick I would try to get neyond this initial sensation -- which would just about ruin the whole experience -- was to load the bowl 2/3 full with the desired tobbaco, and then load the top with a tobacco that doesn't have real strong characteristics, but that lights fast and even and burns well. For me the top layer would be PA or CH. This seem to mitigate the problem to a considerable degree.
Another thing that helps is to not FILL the bowl and it seems to get started better, but for some reason, I am just incapable of loading less than a full bowl!
Finally, I still believe that the wooden match is unparalleled in achieving the best overall lighting of tobaccos like this. I can't explain why. For the most part my regular pipe lighter is a simple butane lighter with a lazy flame, but for a hard staring tobacco, the match still seems to do a better and faster job of it. Just don't be too hasty to put the match to the tobacco unless you like the added taste of sulpher.
Next bowl, try any or all of these things combined and see if it doesn't help bypass the burning ties and asphalt phase. It seems to for me at least. As a matter of fact, Steve, I intend on trying that with my next bowl of Dark Star, just to see if it doesn't help boost the performnce a bit. I know the match trick did at home before, but I seldom use matches at work because of the blow out factor which remind me of the old adage about smoking matches instead of smoking your pipe of tobacco that I have read numerous times in old stories, etc. --RJ-- |
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BWThomas Golden Duke

Joined: 12 Jul 2009 Posts: 450
Location: Leesburg, VA
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:10 am Post subject: |
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| LokoMac8 wrote: |
This is interesting, but something I have observed with many heavily flavored tobaccos -- it seems they just don't work at first light and maybe not until the top layer is good and burned away and things finally get going good. |
I agree totally with this. ...and is why I prefer smoking English and non-aromatic blends in a large bowled pipe. I recall as a youngster, watching the oldtimers lighting their pipes. They looked to be overdoing the light. Excessive flame and puffing. They knew what they were doing, igniting the entire top exposed surface of the fill.
| LokoMac8 wrote: |
Finally, I still believe that the wooden match is unparalleled in achieving the best overall lighting of tobaccos like this.
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Same here, a wooden match is superior. I do use a Bic lighter when on the road, but when settled in here at home, I prefer the wooden match. I have been known to break out the Zippo pipe lighter on occasion with an OTC tobacco, sometimes that just adds to the experience.
After sampling the SG 1792 (which I thoughoughly enjoyed), I tried some others Steve sent to sample. The first was Haddo's Delight. Enjoyed this. Other than Stokkebyes Navy Flake, I haven't had the opportunity to enjoy flakes or Perique blends. This was like Navy Flake on steroids. Exceptional taste that varied throughout the smoke. You have to know what you've got in the bowl with this one, proceed with caution. Sip it and it is enjoyable.
A few hours later I tried the C&D Safe Harbor. This is one that I would not be returning to. I can smoke it alright, but there are other similar blends that I would prefer over this. This one feels like it is trying to be 1792, but missed the boat, or got left in the hold and got wet. Very strong and a bit harsh.
The last one from Steve is labeled ABF. I'm going to assume this is Solani's Aged Burley Flake. Last night I was fretting about smoking up ted's burley and not having anything to replace it. How foolish of me. I rubbed this out and packed a pipe full. It was just like smoking the burley from ted. Got the same barn experience and even more nicotine...WOW on the nicotine. Smoking this one is like drinking good black coffee. Whereas I drink my 7/11 coffee blonde and sweet, if it is 'good' coffee, I'll have it black...thankyou. Like good Italian restaurant coffee. Like coffee my grandmother and mother-in-law used to make. Like coffee made in a french press. It has a slightly bitter quality that you expect. But as you smoke to the bottom to bowl, the smoke smooths out to an almost sweet taste. Very nice. _________________ BWThomas |
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steverino Golden Duke

Joined: 15 Oct 2008 Posts: 787
Location: Piedmont North Carolina
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Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 1:12 am Post subject: |
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Barry, glad you are at least finding the 1792 interesting. It is definitely a tobacco you have to get used to, at least it was for me. If you get a tin and smoke some more, maybe in some different pipes, I'll bet you will eventually notice the vanilla and chocolate notes coming and going. One thing I like to do with it is use it as a "walking around" tobacco, like when I'm working in the yard or something. I'll smoke it and basically forget it, until I remember it - and I'll think to myself, hmm, that tasted like chocolate. Then later I'll notice it again and think huh, that was more like vanilla. Then other times it's like you say, it has that good ol' "just tobacco" taste.
A similar SG tobacco that you might want to try sometime is Bracken Flake. It also has some tonquin in it I believe but there are some differences in the processing that give it a little different flavor - maybe a little more aromatic, you might say. Did I send you a sample of that? I should have if I didn't.
RJ, that thing you're talking about with getting the tobacco burning well, then it seems to do better, I've noticed that too. Normally, I tend to enjoy the early flavor best, then the tobacco changes a bit and becomes smoother mid-bowl, but I have smoked a few that were pretty rough to begin with. Of course, my personal favorites are the tobaccos that smoke essentially the same all the way down - smooth and with a good flavor. There just doesn't seem to be very many of those, and to me they're usually the stronger ones.
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