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Piffyr
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2016 2:05 pm    Post subject: Show Me Your Wallys!  Reply with quote

Wally Frank that is... What were you thinking?

Over the past year, Iíve developed sort of thing for Wally Frank pipes. It started when I was browsing through some of their old catalogs and was charmed by the descriptions, the old-world feel of it all, and the several oddball pipes that they sold over the years.

Like Mastercraft, Wally Frank didnít own a pipe factory and all of their pipes and accessories were made by third parties. Half of the fun in collecting them is trying to figure out exactly who made which pipes and when. After a couple of WF-related conversations with both Alex and Joe, Joe suggested that we try to pool the resources of the forum members to see if we could shed some light on some of the information. If nothing else, it should make for a good discussion and some nice pipe pics to look at.

So, whip out your Wallys and show them here.  Iím interested to see what you guys may have in your collections. Iím sure that you have a few that Iíve never seen before. Shape numbers and stingers/condensers are of particular interest to me, since they can often be traced back to a manufacturer and sometimes even a timeframe.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2016 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are better than two dozen Wally Franks lying in the ďto doĒ box at Casa del Piffyr (my interest in WF is fairly recent and I donít get much chance to work on my own pipes anymore). So, Iím not going to try to post them all at once, but Iíll get the ball rolling with one of my rarest pieces that also happens to something of a headscratcher, a Wally Frank Five Star:





I had originally thought, based on the stamping, that this pipe was one sold exclusively through their London shop. That would make it something of a rarity here in the states (I havenít seen another with the same stamping). That shop has always been a bit of a mystery to me. Iíve never been able to locate an address or pin down the dates of operation. Then, I discovered some information a couple of days ago that makes me wonder if such a shop ever even existed!

In their very early days, Wally Frank apparently tried to pass themselves off as a London-based company that just happened to have a couple of shops in America. They even included a version of the Royal Coat of Arms in their logo (pictured below from 1935).



In August of 1936, the FTC put an end to all of that with a Cease & Desist order:

... cease and desist from the  use in advertisements and advertising matter distributed in interstate commerce of any pictorial representation of  the British Royal Coat of Arms, or Official Seal of the King of England, either independently or in connection or conjunction with the words "Best British Brand", "Wally Frank, Ltd., London", or any other words or phrases having the tendency or capacity to confuse, mislead, or deceive purchasers into the belief that Wally Frank, Ltd. is a British Company, or that it has an office and does business in London ...

So, now Iím thinking that this pipe was made sometime prior to 1936 when they got their palms smacked by the Feds. That would make it a rarity still, but for different reasons.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2016 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2016 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice cauldron, Spade! I knew this thread was going to be a bad idea.



Any idea of the maker? I certainly have no clue.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2016 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave, do you have that pipe? I'm convinced that all of the PotMs were made by Weber. Overruns were stamped and sold as Collectors and the Monkey's Fist was even later sold as an Odd Fellow. I guess it's easy to see why.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2016 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Piffyr wrote:
Dave, do you have that pipe? I'm convinced that all of the PotMs were made by Weber. Overruns were stamped and sold as Collectors and the Monkey's Fist was even later sold as an Odd Fellow. I guess it's easy to see why.


No, I don't have that pipe. Have had a lot of Wally Frank pipes and restored and sold them along the way. Frank did buy the Weber Pipe Factory in Jersey City, NJ, and produced a lot of pipes from there including Custombilts and Jobeys. I can't remember just when he bought the factory but it must have been after Carl Weber died and I can't remember when that was - in the 1970s maybe. Weber did produce pipes if I recall correctly for Frank. Frank was the largest distributor of pipes, made by a lot of different pipe makers, in the mid-20th Century. Dave
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2016 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pipesbywhitney wrote:
No, I don't have that pipe. Have had a lot of Wally Frank pipes and restored and sold them along the way. Frank did buy the Weber Pipe Factory in Jersey City, NJ, and produced a lot of pipes from there including Custombilts and Jobeys. I can't remember just when he bought the factory but it must have been after Carl Weber died and I can't remember when that was - in the 1970s maybe. Weber did produce pipes if I recall correctly for Frank. Frank was the largest distributor of pipes, made by a lot of different pipe makers, in the mid-20th Century. Dave

Thanks, Dave. I know that Weber produced a great number of pipes for Wally Frank, but it's news to me that they eventually bought the factory.

Here are a few more Pipe of the Months (again, please pardon the condition - they are all pre-TLC):





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PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2016 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well it's a work in progress but since the topic has been broached I'll put it up hoping for any info. Already know Anthony is just as stumped as me.



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 01, 2016 10:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wally Frank Pipe of the month poker





Wally Frank small rusticated Canadian




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